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csracing72c
December 15, 2017 at 09:36:16 AM
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Sheldon wrecked no more or less than any of the other cars on tour. That one night with 3 tip overs was a flook. 



dirtlover
December 15, 2017 at 10:22:34 AM
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just another car for schatz to lap on his way to another championship... sheldon is a allstar at best maybe even nra sprint invaders to be honest



Nick14
December 15, 2017 at 10:29:59 AM
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Sometimes I think people think Sheldon tears up more equipment than he does just because of his last name. That Haudenschild name is great and can attract sponsors, fans, sell t-shirts but I think at times it puts an unfair image on Sheldon. Whenever he wrecks there is always someone in the stands that says "just like dad" or "typical Haudenschild." As someone said before he does not tear up anymore equipment as any other young driver his age or has when they were his age. Bringing up the 3 flips in 1 night, has happened before to other drivers not named Haudenschild. Jason Johnson this past year flipped 3 times at the Brad Doty classic and he is a former Knoxville Nationals champion, ASCS champion, and Multiple Outlaw winner.

Not to mention, what other drivers that are out there that are any more or so far more deserving than him with getting the 17? There may be several that are just as deserving but not so far that makes it a bad hire. Like I said, the top 2 drivers that I would pick at this point would be Sheldon Or Logan Shuhart for an Outlaw ride and maybe a few others here or there based on personal preferance. You also have older drivers like Joey Saldana (already has been in the ride), Paul McMahon (ok fine but not so far ahead of Sheldon), Kerry Madsen (Already locked into the 2), then you have your share of regional drivers.




blazer00
December 15, 2017 at 03:27:46 PM
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For the nay-sayers.....only four WoO Rookie of the Year recipients had better seasons than Sheldon's 7th place finish. They are Jeff Swindell, Brad Doty, Joe Gearte and Stevie Smith,Jr. Whether going to the #17 is a good move or not we'll have to wait and see. I'm on the fence, but I hope it works out. There is a better chance that it will if Sheldon can bring some of his current team along for the ride. 



HoldenCaulfield
December 15, 2017 at 06:24:21 PM
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Good choice, I think it's a step up.


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fiXXXer
December 15, 2017 at 11:36:43 PM
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Posted By: El Wingador on December 15 2017 at 08:35:50 AM

The kid has talent, no doubt. But I don’t consider rolling 3 times in one show a mere coincidence.  With the limited wrecks you speak of which I disagree, the blown opportunities, 41 top 10's in 80 plus races and finishing 7th in points doesn’t earn him the 17 ride in a real world. Whether your a fan or not its a fact ..!



The team owners are the ones signing the front of the checks and they chose Sheldon as their driver so he earned it. End of story. If for whatever reason they aren't satisfied with him, they'll write those checks to someone else. If you want to talk about the "real world", that's it in a nutshell.




NFillman8
December 16, 2017 at 05:15:53 AM
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Posted By: dirtlover on December 15 2017 at 10:22:34 AM

just another car for schatz to lap on his way to another championship... sheldon is a allstar at best maybe even nra sprint invaders to be honest



LOL yeah ok 



El Wingador
December 16, 2017 at 06:25:38 AM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on December 15 2017 at 11:36:43 PM

The team owners are the ones signing the front of the checks and they chose Sheldon as their driver so he earned it. End of story. If for whatever reason they aren't satisfied with him, they'll write those checks to someone else. If you want to talk about the "real world", that's it in a nutshell.



I don't give a rats ass who signs the check, he was gifted the ride more for his name than his talent as a driver. You can post up all the stats you want, because at the end of the day the guys signing the checks are looking for championships, not a top 10 in points. It’s not the end of the story because that’s what this forums for, people with opinions. It just so happens that my opinion is fact …! lol



blazer00
December 16, 2017 at 06:54:31 AM
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Posted By: El Wingador on December 16 2017 at 06:25:38 AM

I don't give a rats ass who signs the check, he was gifted the ride more for his name than his talent as a driver. You can post up all the stats you want, because at the end of the day the guys signing the checks are looking for championships, not a top 10 in points. It’s not the end of the story because that’s what this forums for, people with opinions. It just so happens that my opinion is fact …! lol



Evidently you haven't paid that much attention to the kid in a sprint car. Or you simply don't like him for whatever reason. His name actually could have had negative or positive opinions from various different fans, but his talent can't be denied. You seem to have the same mentality as most of the people writing the checks......writing checks doesn't buy championships! Writing checks, building a team and developing that team wins championships. Drivers have stats and they are important and do tell a lot about a driver. But owners have stats too, don't overlook that. One of the stats that the #17 team should be concerned about is how many different driver's names they have penciled on to the "pay to the order of" line in such a short period of time. That stat may tell a lot, also.




JanetH
December 16, 2017 at 07:20:59 AM
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Very happy for Sheldon and team.  Sheldon is a great person, first and foremost, and he will be turning heads this year. All the qualities you look for in a driver is there.

1.  Talented      2.  Fierce competitor     3.  Excellent representative of the sport and team    4.  Team player/fantastic with fans.

Can't imagine that anyone would have an issue with him, unless they don't know him.

 

 

 



DakotaDude
December 16, 2017 at 08:23:15 AM
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Posted By: El Wingador on December 16 2017 at 06:25:38 AM

I don't give a rats ass who signs the check, he was gifted the ride more for his name than his talent as a driver. You can post up all the stats you want, because at the end of the day the guys signing the checks are looking for championships, not a top 10 in points. It’s not the end of the story because that’s what this forums for, people with opinions. It just so happens that my opinion is fact …! lol



So, I must ask, and I know I’m being baited here, What makes your “opinion” fact?  Or is it like everything else nowadays, everyone can have an opinion as long as it coincides with yours? From what I’ve witnessed, Sheldon has markedly improved every season, and I’m guessing if you want to check facts, they would show he has crashed less and less with each consecutive season...just like nearly every other young driver in the country. Sure, he may have gotten some recognition due to his name being Haudenschild and  the son of the one and only Wild Child. Though not necessarily sons, but relations nonetheless, I’m guessing Jeff Swindell got recognized to an extend due to Sammy, Mark Kinser due to Steve, as well as Kraig to Steve, Joey Saldana due to Joe Saldana be one could go on and on. Here’s a fact to hang your hat on. For some reason the powers that be on the 17 team felt Sheldon deserved the ride, doesn’t matter what or why we feel it is. heres My opinion...I hope the kid kicks some ass!



El Wingador
December 16, 2017 at 09:25:28 AM
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Posted By: DakotaDude on December 16 2017 at 08:23:15 AM

So, I must ask, and I know I’m being baited here, What makes your “opinion” fact?  Or is it like everything else nowadays, everyone can have an opinion as long as it coincides with yours? From what I’ve witnessed, Sheldon has markedly improved every season, and I’m guessing if you want to check facts, they would show he has crashed less and less with each consecutive season...just like nearly every other young driver in the country. Sure, he may have gotten some recognition due to his name being Haudenschild and  the son of the one and only Wild Child. Though not necessarily sons, but relations nonetheless, I’m guessing Jeff Swindell got recognized to an extend due to Sammy, Mark Kinser due to Steve, as well as Kraig to Steve, Joey Saldana due to Joe Saldana be one could go on and on. Here’s a fact to hang your hat on. For some reason the powers that be on the 17 team felt Sheldon deserved the ride, doesn’t matter what or why we feel it is. heres My opinion...I hope the kid kicks some ass!



You’re not being baited; the only thing that makes my opinion fact, in my opinion is, I'm a smartass. Your opinion is yours as much as the next guy, I respect your opinion and I could care less if it coincides with mine. I don't dislike him and I hope he does well too. But my opinion is he doesn't take the 17 to a championship.

 

Serious question. If Sheldon was named, let’s say, Ben Dover and Ben had the same exact career stats as Sheldon. Would ole Ben land the 17 ride ?? I say not.




sprintfast
December 16, 2017 at 12:30:56 PM
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Posted By: El Wingador on December 16 2017 at 09:25:28 AM

You’re not being baited; the only thing that makes my opinion fact, in my opinion is, I'm a smartass. Your opinion is yours as much as the next guy, I respect your opinion and I could care less if it coincides with mine. I don't dislike him and I hope he does well too. But my opinion is he doesn't take the 17 to a championship.

 

Serious question. If Sheldon was named, let’s say, Ben Dover and Ben had the same exact career stats as Sheldon. Would ole Ben land the 17 ride ?? I say not.



He is what 0-90 in Woo Races.  Thats what it takes to get a big name ride.  What PPM  Won his 20th outlaw start and that qualifies him for Destiny Motor Sports. LOL 



Nick14
December 16, 2017 at 01:30:55 PM
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Posted By: El Wingador on December 16 2017 at 09:25:28 AM

You’re not being baited; the only thing that makes my opinion fact, in my opinion is, I'm a smartass. Your opinion is yours as much as the next guy, I respect your opinion and I could care less if it coincides with mine. I don't dislike him and I hope he does well too. But my opinion is he doesn't take the 17 to a championship.

 

Serious question. If Sheldon was named, let’s say, Ben Dover and Ben had the same exact career stats as Sheldon. Would ole Ben land the 17 ride ?? I say not.



I think you would be right that he doesn't take the 17 to a championship lol. To be honest with you, unless your name is Schatz and your crew chief is Ricky Warner I would say the odds of you winning a title are slim to none. By slim to none I mean you have Sweet, Gravel, Stewart, maybe Pittman with a slim chance to win, and everyone else with no chance to win the title. Outside of any of those drivers that have a slim chance of winning a title, I do not see any other driver on this planet at this point having any more of a shot at the championship.

To answer your question about if Sheldon was named any other name other than Haudenschild, I would pose the question of where have been the offers up until this point? Sheldon has basically driven the family car for most of young career ouside of the Seeling 97 a few times & the Marshall 33m here in Ohio. I believe he has done some 1-2 race deals for the Nationals and Trophy Cup as well but for the most part it has been the 93. If it was his last name that landed him the ride, then shouldn't it have landed him a long term ride sooner? I mean he had to have some talent to win however many All Star races in 2015 & 2016. No offers for any type of full time ride after those years even with the All Stars. Again, I do not see any other "free agents" avaliable that would have any better of a chance at winning races than Sheldon does.



RodinCanada
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December 16, 2017 at 02:20:13 PM
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I beleive if the teams only joined the WoO series who honesty thought they had a shot at the title there would only be 5 members. 1 with confidence, 2 with realistic dreams and 2 with just dreams.


Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!


blazer00
December 17, 2017 at 09:33:21 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on December 16 2017 at 02:20:13 PM

I beleive if the teams only joined the WoO series who honesty thought they had a shot at the title there would only be 5 members. 1 with confidence, 2 with realistic dreams and 2 with just dreams.



Quite possibly the most intellegent post of the year!



Keyboard Jockey
December 18, 2017 at 08:53:06 AM
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Posted By: El Wingador on December 16 2017 at 09:25:28 AM

You’re not being baited; the only thing that makes my opinion fact, in my opinion is, I'm a smartass. Your opinion is yours as much as the next guy, I respect your opinion and I could care less if it coincides with mine. I don't dislike him and I hope he does well too. But my opinion is he doesn't take the 17 to a championship.

 

Serious question. If Sheldon was named, let’s say, Ben Dover and Ben had the same exact career stats as Sheldon. Would ole Ben land the 17 ride ?? I say not.



Name 2-3 real guys that have the same stats as this BenDover, that by putting them in the 17 would be a better match for the 17 and for the driver. Do I think there are a couple of guys more qualified for this ride? Sure, a couple.



SpcJay
December 18, 2017 at 09:31:47 AM
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You also understand nthat when all of you say "Family deal", that the 93 is 100% Sheldon's deal. Dad isn;t cutting the checks on that deal and outside of the sponsors and Rico helping him...that;s Sheldon Haudenschild's deal. We interviewed Brad Doty early in the season about the 2017 season and he was going on and on about how he was with SHeldon when eh told him his plans and how Sheldon bought the toter so he could stay in it while traveling and how proud he was of him for stepping up andf making his dreams come true. So while SHeldon has a last name...he got to the point where he is on his own. He forked out thge money and he forked out the equipment. May a car owner recognizes the risk he took and that he made it last all year and showed promise coming off a season where he led the All STars in wins as well




El Wingador
December 18, 2017 at 10:37:18 AM
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Posted By: Keyboard Jockey on December 18 2017 at 08:53:06 AM

Name 2-3 real guys that have the same stats as this BenDover, that by putting them in the 17 would be a better match for the 17 and for the driver. Do I think there are a couple of guys more qualified for this ride? Sure, a couple.



Avoiding the question with a question. Your the second one to do that. Reminds me of a politician.

I’m not arguing about who they put in the 17 or who I thinks deserves it more than Sheldon. To be completley honest, I have no one driver that I think deserves it more than the next. I could care less, it’s no sweat off my sack that Sheldon got this ride and I said I hope the kid does well. I’m just simply saying that if it weren’t for Papa Haud he doesn’t land the ride.



Bekemeyer Bullet
December 18, 2017 at 11:48:22 AM
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These are my opinions and that is a FACT. 

1. No one can hire a driver that will win the Outlaw Championship next year.

2. Does Sheldon tear more stuff up than Donny? Yes, revert to question one

3. Did the last name help get the ride? Yes, it has opened many doors by just growing up around the sport and people in the sport. Sheldon, Kraig and any other kid that's been out there most their life have better connections than "Ben Dover" with the same stats.

My thoughts are Ricky Stenhouse and Richard Marshall both understand they won't win the championship next year but the also understand if they hire Sheldon now and spend the money and time to put all the right people and pieces in place they could have championship caliber driver and team in a few years. That driver will be young and have a lot of years ahead of him as well. Plus Sheldon has proven how bad he wants to race on tour, starting your own team, getting sponsors and keeping them is hard. You have to give him some credit  

 

If you want to say you're the Woo Championship owner go give Tony a million or two and he'd probably list you as Donny's owner next year.

 





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