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BigRightRear
November 08, 2017 at 01:14:07 PM
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the only track I can see shutting down for this race would be Badlands / Kville...and perhaps Jackson?

tracks in this area are only 1.5 hours apart and run races on the same days all the time without losing their minds over it.


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

alum.427
November 08, 2017 at 02:33:39 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on November 08 2017 at 01:14:07 PM

the only track I can see shutting down for this race would be Badlands / Kville...and perhaps Jackson?

tracks in this area are only 1.5 hours apart and run races on the same days all the time without losing their minds over it.



It's early enough in the year that some tracks may not be ready to open. PA tracks are not going to close for this race. 2 points. Outlaws are at Knoxville for the national and 100 cars show up. 80 of those cars don't have a chance to win it yet they still show. Being that early in the year, i wonder if any platinum drivers would go ? I don't know what the penalties are if you go off the reservation ? They should chaange the name to World of Followers, because they sure as heck are not outlaws. I wonder what Hewitt would call them ? There's a word people use in front of cat, i could see Hewiit calling theem that. All stars, I hope they book a race to. Teams see that and i think you will see a large field.



BigRightRear
November 08, 2017 at 03:07:18 PM
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the "world of not allowed" cars should NOT show up at this race...because any car other than the 15 will be humiliated by the "dirty air".

I am hoping my schedule allows me to be there


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

rpmgordy
November 08, 2017 at 03:42:46 PM
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Didn't the Huset's deal teach anyone anything? When it sounds too good to be true, it often is. This is voodoo mathematics at it's "finest", pitched by questionable management. 



dsc1600
November 08, 2017 at 04:20:41 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on November 08 2017 at 02:33:39 PM

It's early enough in the year that some tracks may not be ready to open. PA tracks are not going to close for this race. 2 points. Outlaws are at Knoxville for the national and 100 cars show up. 80 of those cars don't have a chance to win it yet they still show. Being that early in the year, i wonder if any platinum drivers would go ? I don't know what the penalties are if you go off the reservation ? They should chaange the name to World of Followers, because they sure as heck are not outlaws. I wonder what Hewitt would call them ? There's a word people use in front of cat, i could see Hewiit calling theem that. All stars, I hope they book a race to. Teams see that and i think you will see a large field.



Most of the outlaws make at least $80k per year in tow money plus point money, and that doesn’t include free pit passes. To give that up for the chance to win $100k with a purse that drops off heavily doesnt make much business sense. 

And if the Outlaws just decided to let their teams run whenever, i doubt they’d have a 90 race schedule every year. 

 



dsc1600
November 08, 2017 at 04:22:01 PM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on November 08 2017 at 03:07:18 PM

the "world of not allowed" cars should NOT show up at this race...because any car other than the 15 will be humiliated by the "dirty air".

I am hoping my schedule allows me to be there



I must be confused Mr Rear, didn’t Gravel win 4 races in your neck of the woods this year?



sprintcarfanatic
November 08, 2017 at 04:43:12 PM
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Gravel was wantin the WOO to get in on this as soon as it was announced. I believe it was a Fast / OSCS deal & thats what it ought to stay. Poor Boy Nationals has a nice ring too it, don't ya think ?



HoldenCaulfield
November 08, 2017 at 05:34:11 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 08 2017 at 04:20:41 PM

Most of the outlaws make at least $80k per year in tow money plus point money, and that doesn’t include free pit passes. To give that up for the chance to win $100k with a purse that drops off heavily doesnt make much business sense. 

And if the Outlaws just decided to let their teams run whenever, i doubt they’d have a 90 race schedule every year. 

 



There isn't anything in dirt track racing that makes business sense when you look at cost/purse ration. Running the WOO tour costs what? 1/2 million or more? Maybe some of the budget teams can do it for less but the top teams I'm sure spend over a million. Not sure why anyone team does it other than the corporate sponsored nascar driver owned teams. I guess the others just want to be "outlaws."

 



GTigers55
November 08, 2017 at 05:37:17 PM
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Posted By: longtimemitchfan on November 08 2017 at 08:33:20 AM

What is the exact date for this race I would like to plan to attend,I agree it would be best with no sanction like the 50 at Port it should draw cars from all over .

I know I am getting old but I dont remember the race in August who won ?

Wonder if Pa. will shut down ,is it close to Easter weekend? ,



April 27th and 28th are the dates for the races.

 

As for tracks shutting down, I imagine the local tracks will likely not compete against it as it's just unwise for car counts and the FAST/OSCS series have worked well thusfar with Cody Sommer. He did yield their largest fields in both 410s and 305s ever with the GLDN after all.



motorhead748
November 08, 2017 at 06:19:02 PM
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I wonder what ticket prices will be? It was $30 for a one division $5K ASCOC show. 



GTigers55
November 08, 2017 at 07:27:38 PM
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Posted By: motorhead748 on November 08 2017 at 06:19:02 PM

I wonder what ticket prices will be? It was $30 for a one division $5K ASCOC show. 



$25 online. Basically tries to encourage purchasing online in advance. I imagine the same will be applicable to this show regardless of the price. But My guesstimation would say $40-45 range and I think that's worth it.



Pimpmobile38
November 09, 2017 at 08:10:01 AM
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What is rest of the format for this race? They have feature formats posted (kind of) but nothing else. If they're going to require teams to preregister and pay a registration fee they need to realease the entire format. Also, having to pay a registration fee is ridiculous. I foresee this keeping a lot of teams away. And in reality the purse is not that great for 100,000 to win. The kings royal pays better for ever position except 1st place and they don't charge a registration fee or require teams to register months in advance. I don't see this event doing that well unless some things change.

csracing72c
November 09, 2017 at 08:29:35 AM
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He has a mandatory registration due no later than the beginning of April. So he will know how many cars are coming. If he doesn't have at least 50-60 cars he will most likely cancel the show. If he has that many cars, he can market the list if drivers which then should sell a lot of tickets. Really a smart way to go about it. 

I just hope he pays some money to hire a guy to prep the track. It definitely improved but that is the most crucial part about this whole deal.



TheSprintFun
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November 09, 2017 at 08:45:25 AM
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Posted By: rpmgordy on November 08 2017 at 03:42:46 PM

Didn't the Huset's deal teach anyone anything? When it sounds too good to be true, it often is. This is voodoo mathematics at it's "finest", pitched by questionable management. 



Questionable management? Based on what? They had some big issues there this year with the track and really inexpirience, but I don't think anybody can question what Cody has done for racing between Mansfield and the Gateway Dirt Nationals. Indy Indoors was a dud but shit at least he tried something outside the box.





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