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Jsr7s
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Posted By: DONT KNOW DONT CARE on April 14 2017 at 06:58:24 AM

Wait a second here, Kevin is not gone because he got out of his car, if he had stayed close to his own car and yelled, gave Tony the finger or even threw his helmet he would be alive. Kevin went after the car, it even appears that he tried to jump on the car in an attempt to get at Tony, this was a horrible tragic event and the only reason it's still being discussed is because it involved a celebrity driver, I feel for this family but at the end of the day this young mans life ended because of his actions on the track and all this blaming and bashing Tony Stewart will never change that.



TO ALL:  CAN BOTH SIDES JUST TAKE THERE FUCKING BLINDERS OFF!  

This was not any ONE mans fault by any means. What happened that day has been done by thousands and thousands of drivers threw out the years. 

THEY BOTH FUCKED UP PERIOD.

kevin did what ALOT ALOT had been doing and some still do when they feel wronged on the track. He got out to tell tony to fuck off

tony did what ALOT ALOT of drivers do. Didn't agree with kevins blaming him so he gave Kevin the fuck off move. Where he gassed up to kick the car sideways to say fuck you Kevin. Again been done by thousands and thousands of racers.

this isn't rocket science at all. STOP POINTING FINGERS AT ONE OF THEM IT WAS BOTH THERE FAULTS PERIOD.

nothing bad could have happened if EITHER ONE OF THE DIVERS would have done the oppisite of what they did.

BOTH EQUALLY AT FAULT!

Ward family needs to STOP. Then maybe they can properly mourn, no way that's even possible when you have been in court since it happened. 

Tony fans need to STOP, believe it or not you aren't tony he can speak for himself. And his performance in car shows how much he struggles with this hole deal. Never has and never will be the wheel man he once was.

AGAIN NO ONE MAN IS TO BLAME HERE, it sits equally on BOTH there shoulders. 

if you have around racing at all over the years you have saw what I just described thousands of times any one of them could have turned out this exact same way. 



dsc1600
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Ward paid the ultimate price for his "mistake". 

Lets not equate the outcomes here.



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Posted By: dsc1600 on April 14 2017 at 08:22:38 AM

Ward paid the ultimate price for his "mistake". 

Lets not equate the outcomes here.



How is it that the family can go after anything? Yes, Kevin was a young man, but he was 20. He was an adult and responsible for his own actions. It's not like he was a minor who was there under his families guidance. He was an adult acting like a child. Been racing these things for 30 plus years and have seen it all. Any time the "Big Boys" came to town, it was a privilage to race against them, as the thinking is that you will get better watching them, talking to them and racing against them. This was a cut and dry case of a kid who thought he had been screwed by one of the "Big Boys" and took issue with it. Should have just chalked it up to "hey, he put a hell of a slider on me, I jumped the cushion and spun it out." Get the car pushed back off, tag the back and try to work your way back up to challenge him again. Instead he pulls a stunt like he did and pays the ultimate price. Not to mention he was high, which obviously affected his judgement. And if the parents had been with him all day like they claim, then they knew he was smoking and didn't have an issue with him being in the car under the influence. That all by itself should have the entire case thrown out.




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TO ALL:  CAN BOTH SIDES JUST TAKE THERE FUCKING BLINDERS OFF!  

This was not any ONE mans fault by any means. What happened that day has been done by thousands and thousands of drivers threw out the years. 

THEY BOTH FUCKED UP PERIOD.

kevin did what ALOT ALOT had been doing and some still do when they feel wronged on the track. He got out to tell tony to fuck off

tony did what ALOT ALOT of drivers do. Didn't agree with kevins blaming him so he gave Kevin the fuck off move. Where he gassed up to kick the car sideways to say fuck you Kevin. Again been done by thousands and thousands of racers.

this isn't rocket science at all. STOP POINTING FINGERS AT ONE OF THEM IT WAS BOTH THERE FAULTS PERIOD.

nothing bad could have happened if EITHER ONE OF THE DIVERS would have done the oppisite of what they did.

BOTH EQUALLY AT FAULT!

Ward family needs to STOP. Then maybe they can properly mourn, no way that's even possible when you have been in court since it happened. 

Tony fans need to STOP, believe it or not you aren't tony he can speak for himself. And his performance in car shows how much he struggles with this hole deal. Never has and never will be the wheel man he once was.

AGAIN NO ONE MAN IS TO BLAME HERE, it sits equally on BOTH there shoulders. 

if you have around racing at all over the years you have saw what I just described thousands of times any one of them could have turned out this exact same way. 



Not this shit again, how many times do we need to go over this... "Didn't agree with kevins blaming him so he gave Kevin the fuck off move. Where he gassed up to kick the car sideways to say fuck you Kevin"

I dont even like Tony Stewart but this shit is still out of hand.

Watch the video 10 more times maybe you will understand, the kid got slid, didnt let out of the throttle to turn the car down the hill. Crashed himself, how does the 14 car even know that the car crashed to know there is going to be a guy looking for him on the race track? If you watch real close the guy infront of the 14 nearly ran him over, again that car had no idea the kid was there. 



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TO ALL:  CAN BOTH SIDES JUST TAKE THERE FUCKING BLINDERS OFF!  

This was not any ONE mans fault by any means. What happened that day has been done by thousands and thousands of drivers threw out the years. 

THEY BOTH FUCKED UP PERIOD.

kevin did what ALOT ALOT had been doing and some still do when they feel wronged on the track. He got out to tell tony to fuck off

tony did what ALOT ALOT of drivers do. Didn't agree with kevins blaming him so he gave Kevin the fuck off move. Where he gassed up to kick the car sideways to say fuck you Kevin. Again been done by thousands and thousands of racers.

this isn't rocket science at all. STOP POINTING FINGERS AT ONE OF THEM IT WAS BOTH THERE FAULTS PERIOD.

nothing bad could have happened if EITHER ONE OF THE DIVERS would have done the oppisite of what they did.

BOTH EQUALLY AT FAULT!

Ward family needs to STOP. Then maybe they can properly mourn, no way that's even possible when you have been in court since it happened. 

Tony fans need to STOP, believe it or not you aren't tony he can speak for himself. And his performance in car shows how much he struggles with this hole deal. Never has and never will be the wheel man he once was.

AGAIN NO ONE MAN IS TO BLAME HERE, it sits equally on BOTH there shoulders. 

if you have around racing at all over the years you have saw what I just described thousands of times any one of them could have turned out this exact same way. 



Seems like this has really upset you, sadly you couldn't be more wrong, but thanks for the passionate rant, your use of ALL CAPS and the word fuck were really impressive. I only have one request, please show me the videos of ALOT ALOT of other drivers running down the track attempting to jump onto or into a moving race car then slipping off and getting run over by the rear wheel. If Tony was equally at fault he would be in jail for man slaughter or at very least assault,  but he is not because the poor SOB didn't even know what was going on. BTW Tony did speak for himself and said he hit the gas to try to avoid hitting him which makes ALOT ALOT more sense then  him trying to use the car to say fuck you to a guy who was attempting to join him in the cockpit. You can respond and rant some more and call me names but I won't respond, have fun at the FUCKING RACES!



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TO ALL:  CAN BOTH SIDES JUST TAKE THERE FUCKING BLINDERS OFF!  

This was not any ONE mans fault by any means. What happened that day has been done by thousands and thousands of drivers threw out the years. 

THEY BOTH FUCKED UP PERIOD.

kevin did what ALOT ALOT had been doing and some still do when they feel wronged on the track. He got out to tell tony to fuck off

tony did what ALOT ALOT of drivers do. Didn't agree with kevins blaming him so he gave Kevin the fuck off move. Where he gassed up to kick the car sideways to say fuck you Kevin. Again been done by thousands and thousands of racers.

this isn't rocket science at all. STOP POINTING FINGERS AT ONE OF THEM IT WAS BOTH THERE FAULTS PERIOD.

nothing bad could have happened if EITHER ONE OF THE DIVERS would have done the oppisite of what they did.

BOTH EQUALLY AT FAULT!

Ward family needs to STOP. Then maybe they can properly mourn, no way that's even possible when you have been in court since it happened. 

Tony fans need to STOP, believe it or not you aren't tony he can speak for himself. And his performance in car shows how much he struggles with this hole deal. Never has and never will be the wheel man he once was.

AGAIN NO ONE MAN IS TO BLAME HERE, it sits equally on BOTH there shoulders. 

if you have around racing at all over the years you have saw what I just described thousands of times any one of them could have turned out this exact same way. 



I, for one, thought Tony was going to be charged, a trial would ensue and he would be found not guilty of any criminal actions.  The trial never happened as they didn't even feel they had enough to charge him.  It is kind of a breath of fresh air to not have to blow tax payer's money on a 2 year trial where there is clearly no way anyone could ever prove criminal intent.

On your rant about "ALOT ALOT" ---that's kind of been the point for all of these years.  Back when my local track was open, they would tell drivers constantly--"DON"T GET OUT OF YOUR CAR AND RUN ONTO THE TRACK!"   There would be penalties and suspensions for drivers not following this rule.  This is why.  Don't care if it has been done by thousands and thousands of drivers.  Death or serious injury is the reason officials have been trying to tell drivers not to do this.  Kevin Ward was not justified in running down the track in the way of oncoming cars simply because thousands of drivers had done it before.

The simple facts remain:  Fact:  Kevin Ward DID run down the track and into oncoming traffic.  Fact:  No one but Tony will ever know if he gassed the car to send a message--as you say--or simply to get out of the way.  I personally don't think he even knew he was being targeted by Kevin so why gas it to send a random driver on the track a message?

All of that said, I thought there would be charges and they would be eventually dropped or he would be found not guilty.  They investigated, determined not enough to press charges, end of story. 

Why we are allowed in this country to file a civil suit against someone when no criminal charges were ever filed is simply mind blowing to me.  I have never understood this.  Maybe we could lower taxes and curb government spending is when an issue like this entered court the judge simply said "this subject has already been reviewed and no charges were filed.  Suit dismissed"

 




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Posted By: egras on April 14 2017 at 08:01:47 PM

I, for one, thought Tony was going to be charged, a trial would ensue and he would be found not guilty of any criminal actions.  The trial never happened as they didn't even feel they had enough to charge him.  It is kind of a breath of fresh air to not have to blow tax payer's money on a 2 year trial where there is clearly no way anyone could ever prove criminal intent.

On your rant about "ALOT ALOT" ---that's kind of been the point for all of these years.  Back when my local track was open, they would tell drivers constantly--"DON"T GET OUT OF YOUR CAR AND RUN ONTO THE TRACK!"   There would be penalties and suspensions for drivers not following this rule.  This is why.  Don't care if it has been done by thousands and thousands of drivers.  Death or serious injury is the reason officials have been trying to tell drivers not to do this.  Kevin Ward was not justified in running down the track in the way of oncoming cars simply because thousands of drivers had done it before.

The simple facts remain:  Fact:  Kevin Ward DID run down the track and into oncoming traffic.  Fact:  No one but Tony will ever know if he gassed the car to send a message--as you say--or simply to get out of the way.  I personally don't think he even knew he was being targeted by Kevin so why gas it to send a random driver on the track a message?

All of that said, I thought there would be charges and they would be eventually dropped or he would be found not guilty.  They investigated, determined not enough to press charges, end of story. 

Why we are allowed in this country to file a civil suit against someone when no criminal charges were ever filed is simply mind blowing to me.  I have never understood this.  Maybe we could lower taxes and curb government spending is when an issue like this entered court the judge simply said "this subject has already been reviewed and no charges were filed.  Suit dismissed"

 



Amen!!



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Read the book, it explains in detail what happened from the only person that saw everything.  He doesn't take sides, just explains what happened.  It also made JZ's husband look like a complete clown which was great.

 

 

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Posted By: BigRightRear on April 13 2017 at 07:54:54 AM

unedited video...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtlTJAWFyRY&bpctr=1492089828

 



Wow, first time I have seen this video.  I wanted to continue believing Stewart accidently ran him over, but this video could be interpreted otherwise to me.  Stewart was much farther up the track in that corner than the car before him, and moving much faster too.  The missing part is whether Stewart was up that high going into the turn.  If so, speeding up to try to steer around Ward makes sense if Stewart didn't see him.  However, as a civil trial instead of a criminal one, any percentage fault they assign to Stewart will lead to money for the Wards.




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Posted By: jtslingin on April 12 2017 at 05:11:32 PM

He was high. 14 car never hit him, the kid runs out of talent or scared by the slider and spins out. Then after looking like a fool, i believe it is his own fault. On the slide job, Stewart never touched him

 



I agree completely. You described him to a "T", sooo tired of this family. Nice way to throw TS under the bus Jessica Zemken.



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All is right just can't stand fans that call people names that died.for our fun it's nuts do people really love Tony more then the life of this kid 20 or not. Maybe because I've been doing this for 50 years seen over 10 die in and around the track. Wolfgang burned people turned on him for a bit,because he was wronged by the outlaws and had the nuts to say so.its nuts that's all .let the courts deal with it , offer your feelings but don't call him names,cause there are still friends ,fans,family out there and I'm sure if your kid,wife or family got killed at a track most all of us burn the streets up to get a lawyer. The people at Daytona when Larson crashed,1980 Knoxville had a shock get in the stands,got a lawyer. Any time a person is wronged or thinks he is get lawyer and they should! The courts will make it right. We all have to learn this is a sport it's not more important then a life.people will be killed in a car  crashes happen,but to buy a ticket to watch and come home missing a loved one wrong.to go to a race as a driver and get ran over is wrong. A driver can turn that car on a dime when a car spins in front of him it was a mistake that's all 



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Posted By: Scoanut on April 15 2017 at 04:37:33 PM

All is right just can't stand fans that call people names that died.for our fun it's nuts do people really love Tony more then the life of this kid 20 or not. Maybe because I've been doing this for 50 years seen over 10 die in and around the track. Wolfgang burned people turned on him for a bit,because he was wronged by the outlaws and had the nuts to say so.its nuts that's all .let the courts deal with it , offer your feelings but don't call him names,cause there are still friends ,fans,family out there and I'm sure if your kid,wife or family got killed at a track most all of us burn the streets up to get a lawyer. The people at Daytona when Larson crashed,1980 Knoxville had a shock get in the stands,got a lawyer. Any time a person is wronged or thinks he is get lawyer and they should! The courts will make it right. We all have to learn this is a sport it's not more important then a life.people will be killed in a car  crashes happen,but to buy a ticket to watch and come home missing a loved one wrong.to go to a race as a driver and get ran over is wrong. A driver can turn that car on a dime when a car spins in front of him it was a mistake that's all 



I have tried to read this 3 times.  You may have some good points but I will never be able to make heads or tails out of what you are saying.  




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Posted By: Scoanut on April 15 2017 at 04:37:33 PM

All is right just can't stand fans that call people names that died.for our fun it's nuts do people really love Tony more then the life of this kid 20 or not. Maybe because I've been doing this for 50 years seen over 10 die in and around the track. Wolfgang burned people turned on him for a bit,because he was wronged by the outlaws and had the nuts to say so.its nuts that's all .let the courts deal with it , offer your feelings but don't call him names,cause there are still friends ,fans,family out there and I'm sure if your kid,wife or family got killed at a track most all of us burn the streets up to get a lawyer. The people at Daytona when Larson crashed,1980 Knoxville had a shock get in the stands,got a lawyer. Any time a person is wronged or thinks he is get lawyer and they should! The courts will make it right. We all have to learn this is a sport it's not more important then a life.people will be killed in a car  crashes happen,but to buy a ticket to watch and come home missing a loved one wrong.to go to a race as a driver and get ran over is wrong. A driver can turn that car on a dime when a car spins in front of him it was a mistake that's all 



All is right, I just can't stand fans that call people names who died for our fun. It's nuts. Do people really love Tony more than the life of this 20 year old kid? Maybe I feel this way because I've been doing this for 50 years and have seen 10 die at the track. When Wolfgang was burned, a lot of people turned on him for a bit, but he had been wronged by the Outlaws and had the balls to say it. It's crazy, that's all. Let the courts deal with it.

In this situation, offer your condolences or feelings, but don't call people names. You shouldn't call people names because there are still friends, family, and fans of these particular drivers out there. I'm sure if one of your family members was killed at the track, most of us would hurry to hire a lawyer. For example, think of the people at Daytona when Larson had his big wreck, or in 1980 when Knoxville had a shock go in the stands, in each instance people got a lawyer. 

Any time a person is wronged, or thinks they are, they should get a lawyer. The courts will make it right. We all have to learn that this is a sport and it's not more important than any one person's life. People get killed in cars, crashes happen. But, to buy a ticket and come home without a loved one is wrong. To go to race as a driver, and get run over on the track is wrong. A driver can turn a sprint car on a dime when another car spins in front of him, I think this was a mistake, that's all.

I hope that helped, Sarge.



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All is right, I just can't stand fans that call people names who died for our fun. It's nuts. Do people really love Tony more than the life of this 20 year old kid? Maybe I feel this way because I've been doing this for 50 years and have seen 10 die at the track. When Wolfgang was burned, a lot of people turned on him for a bit, but he had been wronged by the Outlaws and had the balls to say it. It's crazy, that's all. Let the courts deal with it.

In this situation, offer your condolences or feelings, but don't call people names. You shouldn't call people names because there are still friends, family, and fans of these particular drivers out there. I'm sure if one of your family members was killed at the track, most of us would hurry to hire a lawyer. For example, think of the people at Daytona when Larson had his big wreck, or in 1980 when Knoxville had a shock go in the stands, in each instance people got a lawyer. 

Any time a person is wronged, or thinks they are, they should get a lawyer. The courts will make it right. We all have to learn that this is a sport and it's not more important than any one person's life. People get killed in cars, crashes happen. But, to buy a ticket and come home without a loved one is wrong. To go to race as a driver, and get run over on the track is wrong. A driver can turn a sprint car on a dime when another car spins in front of him, I think this was a mistake, that's all.

I hope that helped, Sarge.



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All is right, I just can't stand fans that call people names who died for our fun. It's nuts. Do people really love Tony more than the life of this 20 year old kid? Maybe I feel this way because I've been doing this for 50 years and have seen 10 die at the track. When Wolfgang was burned, a lot of people turned on him for a bit, but he had been wronged by the Outlaws and had the balls to say it. It's crazy, that's all. Let the courts deal with it.

In this situation, offer your condolences or feelings, but don't call people names. You shouldn't call people names because there are still friends, family, and fans of these particular drivers out there. I'm sure if one of your family members was killed at the track, most of us would hurry to hire a lawyer. For example, think of the people at Daytona when Larson had his big wreck, or in 1980 when Knoxville had a shock go in the stands, in each instance people got a lawyer. 

Any time a person is wronged, or thinks they are, they should get a lawyer. The courts will make it right. We all have to learn that this is a sport and it's not more important than any one person's life. People get killed in cars, crashes happen. But, to buy a ticket and come home without a loved one is wrong. To go to race as a driver, and get run over on the track is wrong. A driver can turn a sprint car on a dime when another car spins in front of him, I think this was a mistake, that's all.

I hope that helped, Sarge.



Lawyers make everything right.  Now that is optimism...... or perhaps just some weed like Ward was smokingSmile


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


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I guess the first question i would like to no. How many of you desk jockies have ever driven a spring car ?  before you ask it yes i did, for years. first and foremost, if the kid stayed by his car or stayed in his car, none of this would have happened. second, go sit in a sprint car and have someone stand next to your right side nerf bar or RR wheel. let's throw in the banking of the racetrack, which ward was above stewart's line of view, and also what appears to be fairly poor lighting. a drivers suit of what color ? most right side wing panels are cut at a angle at the bottom front corner to help the driver see. some because if you plant the LR it helps greatly on what you can see if your under throttle thru the corner. they should put there a**es in a car and under the same circumstances and then ask them. what the h*ll did you see ? this has become a case of greed and dollars. mourn the loss of your son, not how can i profit from it.



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I guess the first question i would like to no. How many of you desk jockies have ever driven a spring car ?  before you ask it yes i did, for years. first and foremost, if the kid stayed by his car or stayed in his car, none of this would have happened. second, go sit in a sprint car and have someone stand next to your right side nerf bar or RR wheel. let's throw in the banking of the racetrack, which ward was above stewart's line of view, and also what appears to be fairly poor lighting. a drivers suit of what color ? most right side wing panels are cut at a angle at the bottom front corner to help the driver see. some because if you plant the LR it helps greatly on what you can see if your under throttle thru the corner. they should put there a**es in a car and under the same circumstances and then ask them. what the h*ll did you see ? this has become a case of greed and dollars. mourn the loss of your son, not how can i profit from it.



I guess the second question I would like to "know", is have you ever buried your own child?  I have not done so myself, but my best friend died at 27 and I stood behind his parents as he was buried, or a closed casket was put into the ground.  

I wouldn't call the family greedy, just desperate to fill a void that can never be filled. Trust me, that emptyness, may get smaller as time goes by, but it's still there.  And it comes back....on the anniversary date, his birthday and Memorial Day.

It is bad enough that things happen in our sport like Leffler, BC and so on.  We get national attention for the bad and sad things, this just adds more bad press to an otherwise great sport.  

Just realize burrying your offspring is probably the hardest thing anyone in this world has ever done and hope that you yourself never has to do it.



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I guess the first question i would like to no. How many of you desk jockies have ever driven a spring car ?  before you ask it yes i did, for years. first and foremost, if the kid stayed by his car or stayed in his car, none of this would have happened. second, go sit in a sprint car and have someone stand next to your right side nerf bar or RR wheel. let's throw in the banking of the racetrack, which ward was above stewart's line of view, and also what appears to be fairly poor lighting. a drivers suit of what color ? most right side wing panels are cut at a angle at the bottom front corner to help the driver see. some because if you plant the LR it helps greatly on what you can see if your under throttle thru the corner. they should put there a**es in a car and under the same circumstances and then ask them. what the h*ll did you see ? this has become a case of greed and dollars. mourn the loss of your son, not how can i profit from it.



No matter which side of this issue you take I think that if this goes to a jury or if just a Judge decides it all making the decision should have to sit in a sprint car in as close to the same position Tony was in as possible before deciding the settlement.




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TO ALL:  CAN BOTH SIDES JUST TAKE THERE FUCKING BLINDERS OFF!  

This was not any ONE mans fault by any means. What happened that day has been done by thousands and thousands of drivers threw out the years. 

THEY BOTH FUCKED UP PERIOD.

kevin did what ALOT ALOT had been doing and some still do when they feel wronged on the track. He got out to tell tony to fuck off

tony did what ALOT ALOT of drivers do. Didn't agree with kevins blaming him so he gave Kevin the fuck off move. Where he gassed up to kick the car sideways to say fuck you Kevin. Again been done by thousands and thousands of racers.

this isn't rocket science at all. STOP POINTING FINGERS AT ONE OF THEM IT WAS BOTH THERE FAULTS PERIOD.

nothing bad could have happened if EITHER ONE OF THE DIVERS would have done the oppisite of what they did.

BOTH EQUALLY AT FAULT!

Ward family needs to STOP. Then maybe they can properly mourn, no way that's even possible when you have been in court since it happened. 

Tony fans need to STOP, believe it or not you aren't tony he can speak for himself. And his performance in car shows how much he struggles with this hole deal. Never has and never will be the wheel man he once was.

AGAIN NO ONE MAN IS TO BLAME HERE, it sits equally on BOTH there shoulders. 

if you have around racing at all over the years you have saw what I just described thousands of times any one of them could have turned out this exact same way. 



This case is in civil court, so if the jury assigns any percentage of fault on Tony, it will cost him money.  



kossuth
June 14, 2017 at 06:58:10 PM
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Posted By: cjalger on June 14 2017 at 03:18:16 PM

I guess the second question I would like to "know", is have you ever buried your own child?  I have not done so myself, but my best friend died at 27 and I stood behind his parents as he was buried, or a closed casket was put into the ground.  

I wouldn't call the family greedy, just desperate to fill a void that can never be filled. Trust me, that emptyness, may get smaller as time goes by, but it's still there.  And it comes back....on the anniversary date, his birthday and Memorial Day.

It is bad enough that things happen in our sport like Leffler, BC and so on.  We get national attention for the bad and sad things, this just adds more bad press to an otherwise great sport.  

Just realize burrying your offspring is probably the hardest thing anyone in this world has ever done and hope that you yourself never has to do it.



Have I ever buried a child?  Nope, and hope I never have to.  I have buried a really close friend that I considered a brother that was taken from this world way too young.

The short of it was all three of us were farm kids and just generally being teenagers. No laws broken just being rowdy kids.  We were tearing the walls out of an old farmhouse his parents planned to remodel but we hadn't been instructed to get busy if you know what I mean. Well, our real close friend had an asthma attack (which was probably a direct result of what we were doing). The asthma attack choked him to death.

So in short the actions of the three of us ended up killing him.  Nobody ever saught any type retribution or financial recuperation in that instance.  Hell, I still go and visit with his parents and grandparents every moment I get.

Where's the similarity you ask?  Both were accidents and both required some less than logical thinking to occur to happen.  The bigest difference in the whole deal is there might be money to milk out of this farce called grieving the Ward's are trying to portray.

While there might have been emotions involved on one side or the other there never was any intent or malice.  You want to honor your son?  Hold a race in his name. Give away a scholarship to a local kid racer. 

Don't be ugly, because all you do when you get ugly about things is tarnish his memory 





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