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racin buddy
December 08, 2016 at 10:53:51 PM
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Posted By: oswald on December 08 2016 at 10:11:44 PM

Cubic has never bothered himself with real facts. Most of his facts are ones he makes up.



Making up facts isn't his problem. It is the making up of facts that are so easily debunked that derail him.



j20s
December 08, 2016 at 11:00:15 PM
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Right, because if XXX was 10x cheaper or more expensive, it would change the fact that most of the PA winners run them. Outlaws aside, most Outlaw teams burn way, way more money than necessary. If you think the competitive difference between Schuchart and Schatz is proportionate in dollars and skill, you are an idiot. But we all know cubicdollars is an idiot.



HoldenCaulfield
December 09, 2016 at 06:54:49 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on December 08 2016 at 05:41:21 PM

Drumpf has a big mouth & talks a big game but lets see what actually happens. His beloved daughter's clothing line is made in China



Exactly, most people with a half a brain realize that he is a bullshit artist that talks out both sides of his mouth. 5 years ago he was saying that Bill Clinton was a great president and Hillary was great senator and SoS. That changed 180 deegrees when he ran for president. He hasn't a clue, but he knows how to pull the strings. I just hope he surrounds himself with people of wisdom and takes their advice. I don't like Pence much politically but I do like his calm demeanor and even temperament. Trump has shown at times that he's willing to listen to differing opinions....but then he gets on twitter. I really hope he's sincere on stopping the TPP. As far as bringing the jobs back that have been shipped abroard, I don't think it's possible to put the cat back in the bag. Raising tarrif's now would just increase prices for consumers and not much else. That should have been done at the start. The best we can do now is stopping anymore FTA's(like the TPP) and changing the tax codes to favor companies that manufacture in the US. The latter has been tried several times but stopped by republicans in congress. Trump will have to fight his own party to bring jobs back to the US. We all know that ain't happening.


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HoldenCaulfield
December 09, 2016 at 07:11:24 PM
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As for XXX, I hate the fact that sprint cars are made in China but so is everything else and I can no longer fault any teams for acting in their financial interests. Hey these cars are just as fast and they're cheaper. I play guitar and I can't tell the difference between my Chinese made Epiphone and a USA Gibson other than the fact that my Epi cost $550 while a similiar Gibson is 2 grand. It's not all manufacturing costs either. It's also the fact that companies know they can charge more for name brand and make more profit off made in the usa. You also have to factor in that in the US, the company has to provide healthcare to it's workers while in other countries it's provided by the state. That's a huge cost. A universal healthcare system would greatly benefit the American worker in terms of overall cost and helping keep jobs here. The thousands that people would save every year would also get put back into the economy.


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cubicdollars
December 09, 2016 at 07:28:03 PM
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Posted By: racin buddy on December 08 2016 at 10:53:51 PM

Making up facts isn't his problem. It is the making up of facts that are so easily debunked that derail him.



You can't understand the 2nd Forbes article either? Sorry, but the Bush "No child left behind" era will soon be gone.

You and the rest of the XXX window lickers will just have to go to the back of the Trump short bus.

Because only a retard would ever pay $2500 for a junk Chinese chassis if Trump taxes them. People on deals like Marks are giving up on them now.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


racin buddy
December 09, 2016 at 09:07:30 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on December 09 2016 at 07:28:03 PM

You can't understand the 2nd Forbes article either? Sorry, but the Bush "No child left behind" era will soon be gone.

You and the rest of the XXX window lickers will just have to go to the back of the Trump short bus.

Because only a retard would ever pay $2500 for a junk Chinese chassis if Trump taxes them. People on deals like Marks are giving up on them now.



I understand the 2nd article had nothing to do with your first posted article, and you had to change the subject to try to keep your over inflated ego from collapsing.




cubicdollars
December 09, 2016 at 10:22:26 PM
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Posted By: racin buddy on December 09 2016 at 09:07:30 PM

I understand the 2nd article had nothing to do with your first posted article, and you had to change the subject to try to keep your over inflated ego from collapsing.



Maybe this is simple enough for you XXX assholes to understand...

Trump 12-9-16 "Buy American, Hire American"


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


racin buddy
December 09, 2016 at 11:13:23 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on December 09 2016 at 10:22:26 PM

Maybe this is simple enough for you XXX assholes to understand...

Trump 12-9-16 "Buy American, Hire American"



I understand the subject of your first posted article was taxes imposed on american companies that move manufacturing off shore and then bring product back in.

Then you canged to an article talking about imposing tariffs on china.

Then you changed the subjdct to trump.

You can't seem to focus on one thing.

As for your latest subject switch, xxx is an american owned company that pays taxes in the US.

Kind of like home depot, or lowes or the gap, or walmart.

 

 



cubicdollars
December 10, 2016 at 08:56:10 AM
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Posted By: racin buddy on December 09 2016 at 11:13:23 PM

I understand the subject of your first posted article was taxes imposed on american companies that move manufacturing off shore and then bring product back in.

Then you canged to an article talking about imposing tariffs on china.

Then you changed the subjdct to trump.

You can't seem to focus on one thing.

As for your latest subject switch, xxx is an american owned company that pays taxes in the US.

Kind of like home depot, or lowes or the gap, or walmart.

 

 



Triplejunk is no different than Apple or Ford. The foxcon iPhone factory is no different than the chinese sweatshop churning out $500  XXX chassis. Import tariffs on Chinese goods are pretty easy to fathom, nimrod. Keep clicking your heels together three times and saying there is no place like China. But chances are that boat has already sailed. Loaded with shipping containers full of 2 junk sprint car frames for every good one.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



blazer00
December 10, 2016 at 09:18:52 AM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on December 09 2016 at 07:11:24 PM

As for XXX, I hate the fact that sprint cars are made in China but so is everything else and I can no longer fault any teams for acting in their financial interests. Hey these cars are just as fast and they're cheaper. I play guitar and I can't tell the difference between my Chinese made Epiphone and a USA Gibson other than the fact that my Epi cost $550 while a similiar Gibson is 2 grand. It's not all manufacturing costs either. It's also the fact that companies know they can charge more for name brand and make more profit off made in the usa. You also have to factor in that in the US, the company has to provide healthcare to it's workers while in other countries it's provided by the state. That's a huge cost. A universal healthcare system would greatly benefit the American worker in terms of overall cost and helping keep jobs here. The thousands that people would save every year would also get put back into the economy.



Universal Health Care is paid for in the prices of goods that all citizens purchase.....food, clothing, gasoline.......vitually all goods. Nothing comes free. But, having spoken with hundreds of Canadian sprint car fans over the years, that method of paying for health coverage is much less costly to the individual and family than having to buy a private plan as we do, and facing all the potential co-pays. GREED RULES in our country and I don't anticipate any changes. Ever seen a run down, delapidated Insurance Company Home Office? NOPE! Multi-million dollar facilities and many over paid individuals all based on a non-profit business model. what a laugh that is!



kossuth
December 10, 2016 at 05:10:46 PM
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on December 09 2016 at 07:11:24 PM

As for XXX, I hate the fact that sprint cars are made in China but so is everything else and I can no longer fault any teams for acting in their financial interests. Hey these cars are just as fast and they're cheaper. I play guitar and I can't tell the difference between my Chinese made Epiphone and a USA Gibson other than the fact that my Epi cost $550 while a similiar Gibson is 2 grand. It's not all manufacturing costs either. It's also the fact that companies know they can charge more for name brand and make more profit off made in the usa. You also have to factor in that in the US, the company has to provide healthcare to it's workers while in other countries it's provided by the state. That's a huge cost. A universal healthcare system would greatly benefit the American worker in terms of overall cost and helping keep jobs here. The thousands that people would save every year would also get put back into the economy.



I strongly disagree about your comment about healthcare. While our system has its problems a state run system has its own. You only have to be involved in some of these screwed up VA hospitals once to know just how fucked up that system is.  There are some of the VA hospitals that are excellent too.  A private system gives the customers a choice/options and a subpar facility will improve or fail. A state run system will continue to allow poorly run offices to continue as such. A state run system gives the individual little to no options.  A private system your options are limited by your pocket book and the donations of others  

Healthcare isn't just a dollars and cents conversation because this is dealing with your life/quality of life. Care to put a price tag on your health or the health of those you love?



ryanhunsinger
December 10, 2016 at 05:58:45 PM
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You guys are all crazy lol. Do you guys really think that if xxx was junk that these teams would actually run them? The chassis are only 1000 cheaper (around 2000$ for a xxx vs around 3000$ for a maxim eagle etc). In this era where 200,000$ plus haulers and 50-60,000$ engines are the norm do you really think that anyone would actually run junk just to save $1000 on a chassis? 

I understand and the american made argument and everyone is entitled to spend their money how and where they choose, but to say that xxx is garbage is simply not true.




The_Truth_Detector
December 10, 2016 at 08:43:05 PM
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If you believe anything Trump says, you're an idiot.



blazer00
December 11, 2016 at 01:51:46 AM
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Posted By: kossuth on December 10 2016 at 05:10:46 PM

I strongly disagree about your comment about healthcare. While our system has its problems a state run system has its own. You only have to be involved in some of these screwed up VA hospitals once to know just how fucked up that system is.  There are some of the VA hospitals that are excellent too.  A private system gives the customers a choice/options and a subpar facility will improve or fail. A state run system will continue to allow poorly run offices to continue as such. A state run system gives the individual little to no options.  A private system your options are limited by your pocket book and the donations of others  

Healthcare isn't just a dollars and cents conversation because this is dealing with your life/quality of life. Care to put a price tag on your health or the health of those you love?



Talk to some Canadian citizens and quit listening to the bullshit in our media. Any idea how much graft and fraude there is in our system compared to Canada's? Talk to the people! And yes, it is dollars and cents!!!



ryanhunsinger
December 11, 2016 at 02:02:48 AM
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I'd say that overall our healthcare is pretty decent. It's the 40% income tax that's tough to swallow.




kossuth
December 11, 2016 at 12:22:47 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on December 11 2016 at 01:51:46 AM

Talk to some Canadian citizens and quit listening to the bullshit in our media. Any idea how much graft and fraude there is in our system compared to Canada's? Talk to the people! And yes, it is dollars and cents!!!



Any idea how much graft and fraud there is in our government???  Any government???  As for bullshit in our media, I trust them about as much as I trust the majority of the fuckers here on hoseheads IE I do my own research.  Case in point lets try looking at the source data itself.  The Canadian government.  https://www.cihi.ca/en/health-system-performance/performance-reporting/international/wait-times-for-primary-and-specialist  

Take a good long read of that.  There's hours of comparision data between Canada, the US, France, Great Britian etc.   



blazer00
December 11, 2016 at 12:57:11 PM
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The report you refer to is not from the Canadian Government. It's from the Canadian Institue for Health Information (CIHI) a "non-profit" company that compiles data based on the criteria of it's own research, and it's own choosing. Most of what a person will discover about these organizations is that they give Universal Health Care a black eye more often than not. And the negative revues are in much more abundance......like bad news is in our media. It's like comparing FOX to MSNBC.......anybody can find the answers they want to hear if they look in the right places. I'll still base my beliefs on what the people tell me. Plus, that we live in the wealthiest country in the world, should make Universal Health Care easier to achieve, and at a higher standard. 



daytimer
December 18, 2016 at 10:13:12 PM
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Big Game Tree Stands are made in China also.  So this will affect one of the better owners in sprint cars.

 




cubicdollars
December 21, 2016 at 06:44:12 PM
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Posted By: daytimer on December 18 2016 at 10:13:12 PM

Big Game Tree Stands are made in China also.  So this will affect one of the better owners in sprint cars.

 



American Treestands

Chinese Treestands


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com




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