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I remember a time when the Luna Ford was deemed the " penalty box " amongest the drivers because it ran so well. 

Had my years mixed up on the Wolfie/Scruffy wins and did clear myself with saying Blaney won the nationals a few years later with the Hylton 10 not Luna.

To be honest, Unless you were Steve Kinser, Swindell or Wolfgang,  Nobodys cars win list were stellar by any means.  While these three were winning 20-40 races a year, the rest was a feet to get three or four or even one win.Haud, Hillenberg, Jeff Swindell, Davis, Blaney all were on the cusp and would win now and then.
But the big three were the big three and I'd put any one of them in their primes toe to toe with Shatz in his prime and pick the big three every time.

you need to look at the WoO rules!!they have more engine rules than USAC ever had!Just some examples=no big blocks even if they are under 410,bore size restrictions,canted valves[ford]must be submitted and approved,and the always popular"if its not already being run,you cant do it"If you showed up at a outlaw race with an Offy it wouldn't be legal

The reason you haven't figured it out in 20 years is that you refuse to consider the simple explanation that teams find the  "Chevy" design to work better

You're exactly right rev. Some people refuse accept reality when reality is the opposite of what they want.

no! Chevy cost less to build and rebuild! If chevy is a better design. how come chevy has not won the 24 hour of le mans? years of building the less expensive engine gives more R-D for the less expensive engine.that gives you more time to perfect the less expensive engine!

Man you like to reach don't you? Just a couple things though, I'd like to see you fit a LeMans Ford GT engine into a sprint car, AND get it through tech. LOL! And even though Chevrolet decided to run the GTE Pro class at LeMans and Daytona, plus other events around the world, doesn't mean Chevrolet hasn't found success with a high tech racing program. In fact.....8 LeMans wins out of 16 starts....including 2016...plus 1st and 2nd at Daytona in 2016.....and since 2000, 97 wins world wide. And then there is NASCAR............need I go on?

Blast from the past - Casey Luna and Bob Fetter were successful back in the day. But, as I recall, at about two times the cost of a Chevy when the dust settled.

That was 300 horsepower ago.

I wish.  I talk about the cool stuff.  He owns it.

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

It was called the penalty box for about 8 months (mid 87 to early 88).  In its second full year (the year after Steve and Karl won everything this side of the moon), it led the Nationals late finishing a close second to the 11.  If Davis wouldn't have missed some action due to his father's health, it would have been second in WoO points.  It finished no worse than second in WoO points from 93 to 96 behind only Karl every year it didn't win.  Its obvious why its not legal.  The Ford had to beat the best of all time in their prime.  If you dis something that was right on Karl Kinser's bumper between 1988 and 1996, you have no pulse.

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Thanks for info!  Much appreciated

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

More like about 75.

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Bobby Allen won Knoxville in '90. The United Sprint Association was in '89, Wolfgang won Knoxville that year in the DP Motorsports 8D just like every other race he ran that year.

  I don't  think I'm reaching one bit! it is simple economics

24 hours of LeMans? totally different thing. We're talking sprint cars

 no. my response was to the bashing of fords. in my first responce had to do with sprint cars and i do think chevy right now chevy is the better sprint car engine.

Say again. 

Point of order, I believe that Dave Blaney won the World of Outlaws championship with a Ford engine in the Casey Luna car in 1995.  That year Lee Brewer Jr. put the Poston 15 Ford powered car in the A Feature of the Knoxville Nationals.  Brewer at the time worked for Ron Shaver building engines.  The Poston 15 was based in the Memphis area and during the remainder of that season it was driven by Ricky Stenhouse Sr. I believe that Stenhouse won a few races that year at St. Francois County Raceway in Farmington, Missouri, Benton International Raceway, and some other area tracks. 

You have more 410 Ford stuff than TSR sir.  Talk and stickers dont count. 

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

"Still hoping and praying for any additions in 2017"

Really? "Praying"? Thats kind of sick... aren't there more important things?

Reminds me of people praying at football games.... you think God takes sides????