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mo21sprint
October 01, 2016 at 01:24:08 AM
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I heard them talking and the promotor,crew, and some others are going to totally rework the track all night. They did pack it to tight for today, track has never been that bad. They will fix it without a doubt..



revjimk
October 01, 2016 at 09:21:59 AM
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I've only been watching sprints for 7 years now, & track prep is still a total mystery to me.

Can someone explain why it was such a "skating rink" last nite?



3togo
October 01, 2016 at 09:46:05 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 01 2016 at 09:21:59 AM

I've only been watching sprints for 7 years now, & track prep is still a total mystery to me.

Can someone explain why it was such a "skating rink" last nite?



It's called dirt.

 




mo21sprint
October 01, 2016 at 09:48:51 AM
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Posted By: 3togo on October 01 2016 at 09:46:05 AM

It's called dirt.

 



It's also red clay and when they called for 50 percent chance of rain they packed it tight. That way they could get on it for day 2 if the first night was a wash. Hopefully they don't ever do that again.



revjimk
October 01, 2016 at 10:42:39 AM
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Posted By: mo21sprint on October 01 2016 at 09:48:51 AM

It's also red clay and when they called for 50 percent chance of rain they packed it tight. That way they could get on it for day 2 if the first night was a wash. Hopefully they don't ever do that again.



So you're saying moisture wasn't allowed to penetrate the clay? What could they have done differently? & why does packing it tight help for the next day?



MSPN
October 01, 2016 at 12:13:36 PM
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Worst night of racing I've seen in years.  Brutal, single file, huggy pole at 50 mph....




mo21sprint
October 01, 2016 at 02:04:34 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 01 2016 at 10:42:39 AM

So you're saying moisture wasn't allowed to penetrate the clay? What could they have done differently? & why does packing it tight help for the next day?



I know if it rains hard and it's packed tight water runs off, they called for rain yesterday. It didn't happen. If it was my track I would just set it up the way it should be. If it rains then so be it.



miledirtfan
October 01, 2016 at 06:09:18 PM
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It really wasn't very good

Im sure it will be better tonight.  I don't think the track realizes how good it really could be with a few tweaks



blazer00
October 02, 2016 at 12:06:15 AM
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Great A Main tonight! Excellent from the green flag on......great race up front and a hell of a finish! Track really has potential.




mo21sprint
October 02, 2016 at 01:39:45 AM
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This track has put on some great races,last night was a real off night. Some of my friends worked all night to dig it up and then run it in. It worked. What a great race..



revjimk
October 02, 2016 at 03:53:26 AM
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Glad it was better Saturday. 

I went to POWRI at Belleville, my first time for both, excellent!

I'm a POWRi fan now, 43 midgets, no TT, super competitive

MIcro sprints were good too....

On the subject of support classes, I thought Modifieds at Farmington were pretty good, starting to like them more....



brettco
October 02, 2016 at 01:25:36 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 02 2016 at 03:53:26 AM

Glad it was better Saturday. 

I went to POWRI at Belleville, my first time for both, excellent!

I'm a POWRi fan now, 43 midgets, no TT, super competitive

MIcro sprints were good too....

On the subject of support classes, I thought Modifieds at Farmington were pretty good, starting to like them more....



 The modified racing i saw this year after my young boys refused to go to Knoxville any more was way more entertaining. Not As many yellows/tighter show and every week someone fron the B in the top 3 in the A. I hate to say it but speed isn't everything.




StanM
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October 03, 2016 at 05:31:03 PM
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Posted By: mo21sprint on October 01 2016 at 02:04:34 PM

I know if it rains hard and it's packed tight water runs off, they called for rain yesterday. It didn't happen. If it was my track I would just set it up the way it should be. If it rains then so be it.



What the track maintenance people will generally do is leave them sealed over from the previous week's show if there is a threat of heavy rain prior to the next show.  They don't litterally go out and pack the track in the middle of the week, they just don't blade and water until they get a good idea what the weather will do.  At least that has been my observation up in our area.  Really when you think about it track preparation is a lot like farming except in the case of prepping a track there is no "crop insurance".  They take their best guess and prepare accordingly.  Sometimes the'll guess wrong and the track will take on rubber and go huggy pole.  Contrary to popular opinion on the message boards no promoter purposely prepares a bad track.  It just means that they're evaluation of what they thought was going to happen with the weather was off.  Sometimes a little and sometimes a lot but it's never by design as no business owner wants to provide customers with a bad experiences.

It's a thankless job.


Stan Meissner

sprintfanatic
October 03, 2016 at 06:46:02 PM
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Posted By: StanM on October 03 2016 at 05:31:03 PM

What the track maintenance people will generally do is leave them sealed over from the previous week's show if there is a threat of heavy rain prior to the next show.  They don't litterally go out and pack the track in the middle of the week, they just don't blade and water until they get a good idea what the weather will do.  At least that has been my observation up in our area.  Really when you think about it track preparation is a lot like farming except in the case of prepping a track there is no "crop insurance".  They take their best guess and prepare accordingly.  Sometimes the'll guess wrong and the track will take on rubber and go huggy pole.  Contrary to popular opinion on the message boards no promoter purposely prepares a bad track.  It just means that they're evaluation of what they thought was going to happen with the weather was off.  Sometimes a little and sometimes a lot but it's never by design as no business owner wants to provide customers with a bad experiences.

It's a thankless job.



Great Post.  Just a missed call on what the weather was going to do.  On Friday it just misted with an occasional brief shower where I was nearby, and I expect the track was no different.  It was packed in so tight that the rotary tillers could do very little with it.  Hats off to the folks that worked throught the night to have a great track on Saturday for a great Queen's Royal A-Main with an exciting finish thanks to a brave and smart move by Golobic, who could have stayed on top and coasted to second behind Price-Miller. Smile

 





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