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December 08, 2011 at
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December 08, 2011 at
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"I can't believe how so many people don't realize that contracts are BINDING." True, for both sides. WoO had an obligationto reply to Jason's request, especially since others were permitted to run, and they told him they would get back to him,which they didn't.
False statement, not fulfilling the contract in good faith. Its not a one way street (just a one way racetrack...)
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December 08, 2011 at
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Posted By: revjimk on December 08 2011 at 09:47:38 AM
"I can't believe how so many people don't realize that contracts are BINDING." True, for both sides. WoO had an obligationto reply to Jason's request, especially since others were permitted to run, and they told him they would get back to him,which they didn't.
False statement, not fulfilling the contract in good faith. Its not a one way street (just a one way racetrack...)
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But there is also the legal issue of precident. How has WRG handled other contract disputes? I'm sure there are more than a few contract issues every year that we don't hear about. Is the WRG contract with the driver or car owner? Why were the KKR cars and drivers allowed to race IF they changed their number as reported? I don't know about you, but I go to see the DRIVERS compete and I don't care if Steve has a 16, 22 or 99 on his car.
Did the punishment fit the crime? It seems overly severe to most all us fans. Why would WRG knowingly p*ss off one of the most popular drivers and incure the wrath of the fans who support their series. I agree the WRG does not have an obligation to get back to Jason but WRG has 12 driver or so under contract and should have the COURTESY to get back with Jason in a timely manor.
I'm sure that are more details that will come out as this progresses but there is no doubt that this publicity has hurt WRG.
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December 08, 2011 at
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For all you legal "experts'...
this dispute will never go to trial. Sides knows this, which is why he went public with his story. He is just trying to make things bad for the Woo's public image (as if it could get any worse).
Sides went to Carter, who told him to go to Carlton Reimers, who told Sides his racing in a non-sancted event was not allowed. Sides didn't take no for an answer, so he called Carter, who told him nothing. Nothing means he didn't have permission to race. It doesn't make any difference whether Schatz or whoever raced or not. Not everybody has the same provisions in their individual contracts. End of story.
Sides/Decker picked this fight to cause bad publicity for the Woo. Decker was the one trying compete against the WoO by running the NST. Frankly, he's an idiot. This whole thing is a setup to pick a public fight.
As for Sides, if you don't like the provisions of a contract, don't sign it. Then you can race wherever you want. If you want the benefits of being a WoO member (aka point fund, free passes, ect.) then follow the rules. You can't have it both ways.
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December 08, 2011 at
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Posted By: sprint777x on December 08 2011 at 02:24:39 PM
For all you legal "experts'...
this dispute will never go to trial. Sides knows this, which is why he went public with his story. He is just trying to make things bad for the Woo's public image (as if it could get any worse).
Sides went to Carter, who told him to go to Carlton Reimers, who told Sides his racing in a non-sancted event was not allowed. Sides didn't take no for an answer, so he called Carter, who told him nothing. Nothing means he didn't have permission to race. It doesn't make any difference whether Schatz or whoever raced or not. Not everybody has the same provisions in their individual contracts. End of story.
Sides/Decker picked this fight to cause bad publicity for the Woo. Decker was the one trying compete against the WoO by running the NST. Frankly, he's an idiot. This whole thing is a setup to pick a public fight.
As for Sides, if you don't like the provisions of a contract, don't sign it. Then you can race wherever you want. If you want the benefits of being a WoO member (aka point fund, free passes, ect.) then follow the rules. You can't have it both ways.
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Mate you dont even have the true story about what even happened you say " Sides went to Carter,who told him to go to Carlton Reimers,who told Sides his racing in a non-sancted event was not allowed. Sides didnt take no for an answer,so he called Carter,who told him nothing"
That is all a load of garbage,you got to love people on here posting about something they no nothing about.
Sides did NOT ring Carter after Carlton told him no! He went straight to Carter because all year long when Sides would ask Carlton about anything,he would ALWAYS reply,let me ring Carter & ask him! So Sides went straight to the top to ask for permission instead, then Carter took it upon HIMSELF to just assume that Carlton had already said no,& didnt bother returning his call. Nobody in that organisation seems to know what the next person is doing,maybe if these guys actually made & returned phone calls things wouldnt be in such shambles
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Budz76: I think you misunderstood me. I'm with ya all the way, WoO DID have an obligation to get back with Jason.
Sprints777: Not claiming to be an expert by any means, just a citizen with common sense. "Carlton Reimers, who told Sides his racing in a non-sancted event was not allowed" Where did you get that? Not the story Jason is circulating...
And even if WoO is right on a technicality, punishment definitely does NOT fit the crime. He should be penalized for one race, if any. Flat out, if the guy risks his life for our entertainment & WoO's profit, they should give him the benefit of the doubt!!!
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December 08, 2011 at
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I guess whatever story Sides circulates must be the truth...right?
And risking his life for our entertainment isn't a precedent in contract law, as far as I know.
This is just a pissing match between two parties that both lack any real intelligence. This has everything but a laugh track.
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December 08, 2011 at
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I wish we could get a copy of the contract that way we all know what it says, since there are so many people that already know, and have so much information about what it says, what can and can't happen, fines if you do and fine if you don't. Was Jason a lil wrong yes was WoO way wrong YES, hope they have to pay him, his lawyers, and intrest! WoO have been watching to much NASCAR and think they can just take money away, these guys are racing for a (living) not (millions)!!!
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Posted By: sprint777x on December 08 2011 at 02:24:39 PM
For all you legal "experts'...
this dispute will never go to trial. Sides knows this, which is why he went public with his story. He is just trying to make things bad for the Woo's public image (as if it could get any worse).
Sides went to Carter, who told him to go to Carlton Reimers, who told Sides his racing in a non-sancted event was not allowed. Sides didn't take no for an answer, so he called Carter, who told him nothing. Nothing means he didn't have permission to race. It doesn't make any difference whether Schatz or whoever raced or not. Not everybody has the same provisions in their individual contracts. End of story.
Sides/Decker picked this fight to cause bad publicity for the Woo. Decker was the one trying compete against the WoO by running the NST. Frankly, he's an idiot. This whole thing is a setup to pick a public fight.
As for Sides, if you don't like the provisions of a contract, don't sign it. Then you can race wherever you want. If you want the benefits of being a WoO member (aka point fund, free passes, ect.) then follow the rules. You can't have it both ways.
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Sprint 777x, is that a fact that Carltom Reimers told Joson he was not allowed to race or are you speculating?
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December 08, 2011 at
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Sprint777x There is an old saying :Better to have people think your an idiot than to open your mouth or in your case type on a key board and remove all possible doubt .
I SUPPORT JASON SIDES FROM DOWN UNDER
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December 09, 2011 at
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Posted By: sprint777x on December 08 2011 at 07:35:54 PM
I guess whatever story Sides circulates must be the truth...right?
And risking his life for our entertainment isn't a precedent in contract law, as far as I know.
This is just a pissing match between two parties that both lack any real intelligence. This has everything but a laugh track.
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I can tell you right here & now that Sides' story is the truth mate,I was there first hand when it all went down,actually about 2 feet away from him when he made the calls!
This just amazes me how people can read a handfull of posts on this site & make up there own story from what they THINK they know!
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December 14, 2011 at
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December 15, 2011 at
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Week 3 items now up for grabs ,check out the awesome items at .http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-support-Jason-Sides-against-world-racing-group/282122625153461
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December 19, 2011 at
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Posted By: Apollo on November 02 2011 at 04:29:06 PM
Remember when Jimmy Sills wanted to go race somewhere else he would call himself Luke Warmwater. All the drivers need an Ailis.
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luke warmwater ran the dirt cup at skagit about ten years ago or so..........
Ascot was the greatest of all time..
West Capital wasn't half bad either..
Life is good...
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Posted By: NWFAN on December 19 2011 at 03:03:57 PM
luke warmwater ran the dirt cup at skagit about ten years ago or so..........
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So is luke warmwater a one time hitter? I would love to have a tshirt! A xxl if available.
i just remembered i was supposed to remember to
remember something but cant remember what i was
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January 16, 2012 at
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This message was edited on
January 16, 2012 at
08:00:34 PM by woohoo
WOW, this was posted on Jasons website, It's awesome to see the support that this man and team has. I thought it was worth sharing. Let's keep the support going for this great cause.
To all our fans and friends from all over the US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Thank you for all your support, donations, purchases and just your encouragement on the forums, facebook and in person. As we said at the beginning of our legal issues with WRG that we would post a list of everyone that supported our cause, either by donation, apparel purchases, or any form of support. We will attempt to compile that list, in no particular order other than by name and hometown. From November 1st until January 7th. You may see a name on the list twice and that is because they made a donation and a purchase, or was the high bidder in the Auction. *Denotes Donation DAVE YAGER IOWA CITY, IA JOSEF FOHN MT VERNON, WA JOHN JARVIS KILMORE VICTORIA, AU RICHARD KARRICK ARLINGTON, OH SCOTT MASSENGALE WALTON, CA DON DAWSON INDIANOLA, IA JAMES DANIEL JR. LAKELAND, TN CHRIS HANSEN NUNDRA, SD RYAN HARRISON MARTIN, TN JOE YAGER WOODWARD, IA ANONYMOUS * DONATION JARY THOMPSON LAKEVILLE, MN WILLIAM GILLIAM IBERIA, MO DREW BIBLE CHINA GROVE, NC JOHN PHELPS * HOLLAND, MA BONNIE GREEN NEW PARIS, OH DONNA DUNN REPUBLIC, OH RON GREY COURE D' ALENE, ID PETER PEARS COLYTON, NSW, AU * ROBERT SHERROD YOUNGSVILE,PA ROBERT SHERROD YOUNGSVILLE, PA BILL DRIBER JOBSTOWN, NJ THE CHORE MAN SAN HOSE, CA MIKE PARTIN BUNNELL, FL KEN STRANSKY * OWATONNA, MN * BEN MCCLUSKEY BOYERTOWN,PA TAYLOR FORBES NELIGH, NE GREGORY ZANK MENASHA, WI JEFFREY ROCKWOOD TOLEDO, OH BILL HAWK LIBERAL, KS TORI SESSIONS HUTCHISON, KS STEPHANIE STAUFFER RAWSON,
i just remembered i was supposed to remember to
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February 06, 2012 at
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This message was edited on
February 07, 2012 at
12:40:24 AM by filtalr
A nice write up! Thought it was worth sharing!
EDIT - If anyone is interested in reading the copyrighted article it can be found here --
http://www.motorracingnetwork.com/Race-Series/World-of-Outlaws/News/Articles/2012/02/A-Tale-of-Two-Jasons.aspx
and it is interesting...
i just remembered i was supposed to remember to
remember something but cant remember what i was
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