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Mister T
March 16, 2013 at 03:40:10 PM
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This message was edited on March 23, 2013 at 07:33:27 AM by Mister T

scan0001.jpg This car is one of my all time favorites. Jay Carnes built the car for the 1966 season. The driver was Al Hailey until he had to relocate for his job. Larry Phillips took over the #5 but Jay was not happy with Larry so Jack Belk got the ride. Originally #5 was powered by a Mopar 426 wedge but in 1967 Joplin's Ozark Speedway went to a 310CI maximum. Carnes installed a 289 Ford and Jack won the 1967 Ozark speedway track championship. The car was built with input from Preston Tucker Jr. who was an engineer the Rocketdyne plant in Neosho MO. In 1967 the 71 speedway was still running big blocks so Carnes decided not to compete there until Belk talked him into going. the first night there Belk won everything with the 289 against the big engines. Sadly Jay Carnes passed away this past year so we lost a good friend but we still have some great memories!!




Mister T
March 16, 2013 at 10:43:11 PM
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Posted By: Mister T on March 16 2013 at 03:40:10 PM

scan0001.jpg This car is one of my all time favorites. Jay Carnes built the car for the 1966 season. The driver was Al Hailey until he had to relocate for his job. Larry Phillips took over the #5 but Jay was not happy with Larry so Jack Belk got the ride. Originally #5 was powered by a Mopar 426 wedge but in 1967 Joplin's Ozark Speedway went to a 310CI maximum. Carnes installed a 289 Ford and Jack won the 1967 Ozark speedway track championship. The car was built with input from Preston Tucker Jr. who was an engineer the Rocketdyne plant in Neosho MO. In 1967 the 71 speedway was still running big blocks so Carnes decided not to compete there until Belk talked him into going. the first night there Belk won everything with the 289 against the big engines. Sadly Jay Carnes passed away this past year so we lost a good friend but we still have some great memories!!



I don't know what happened. I had a picture of the car here but now it is gone. I will try to get it back on when I figure out what I did.

Mister T
March 18, 2013 at 06:03:29 AM
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scan0001.jpg



Mister T
March 18, 2013 at 06:08:11 AM
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Here is another shot from 1966



Mister T
March 18, 2013 at 11:55:54 AM
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This message was edited on March 19, 2013 at 07:09:07 AM by Mister T

I finally got this picture to stay. This was taken in 1967. I was in 6th grade in the school in the background which was across the street from Jay's shop. In the winter and spring of 1966 I would run over to Jay's shop after school to check on his progress.In 1968 Jay built a new car for Jack Belk to drive and Jack's son Randy drove this car with the number 6 on it.I don't know what happened to the car after that, but it would be a cool restoration project if it was found.


redbandana
December 18, 2013 at 12:40:39 PM
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Posted By: Mister T on March 18 2013 at 11:55:54 AM

I finally got this picture to stay. This was taken in 1967. I was in 6th grade in the school in the background which was across the street from Jay's shop. In the winter and spring of 1966 I would run over to Jay's shop after school to check on his progress.In 1968 Jay built a new car for Jack Belk to drive and Jack's son Randy drove this car with the number 6 on it.I don't know what happened to the car after that, but it would be a cool restoration project if it was found.


Mister T -----------the 5 car was bought by Randy Belk at the end of the 1967 years,, Jacks oldest son  ,,Randy raced it in 1968,,the car was all used up at the end of 1968,,it was built with alot light square tubing in it..The car was all used up after the 1968 year and never raced again..

In 1966  Jack Belk and  Al Hailey both drove the car at the same time or the SAME YEAR Hailey at Neosho on the weekends and Belk on Tuesday nights at Joplin in the middle of the week..Jack Belk  traveled raced out of state on the weekend but ran the car and won the Joplin Championship both years 1966 and 67,,in 1966 it had the 426 Mopar and 67 it had the 289 to fit the 305 limit joplin had trying to match Tulsa rules.Belk did run the car the 2nd half at Neosho in 1967 with the 289 Ford and won the 2nd half Championship against the Big Blocks.

Rnandy Belk never drove a open wheel car for Jay Carnes but a few years later in Late Models Randy Belk won the 1974 SW MO Later Model Nationals at joplin in a Jay Carnes Late Model..

This car also won the SW MO Nationals in 1966 qnd 1967,,,,In 1966  Jack Belk tied with Dean Roper  they both got 1st and 2nd in twin 50 Lappers..Fred Tullis got 3rd in the Corky Felker #14 ..

Then in 1967 Belk was 1st   and  Emmitt Hahn was 2nd in the #33 Cox owned car. in th SW Mo Modified Nationals.

 

Tim Belk


Win as if you are use to it.And lose as if you enjoyed 
it for a change.Its hard to get to the top and alot 
harder to stay there.

redbandana
January 31, 2014 at 05:25:35 PM
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  There  has been alot of remarks made to me about LATE MODEL GREAT Larry Phillips never driving open wheel..,Well here it is[[[Larry Phillips ran Open wheel Modifieds at Joplin about 4 years or so pretty hard and on and off other years there in the 60s,, he did pretty well from  about 1963 to 1966...He also ran some up in Kansas City he is listed in the Olympic Stadium Program in the mids 60s..Larry was like all other good drivers  back then in the 60s he tryed to get a ride in any type Racing  he could.....He ran some 2 wheel Bikes also...he was a RACER..

  LARRY DID ok AT Joplin in Open Wheel modified he got some wins and nobody can say he did not do WELL...But he never could get a ride to stick in Supermods in KC which happened to alot of people back then...Larry did finish 5th or 6th in Joplin points one year in 1964 ,,other drivers like  Jack Belk--Willie Crane --Dean Roper--Bud Hatch---Chick Shaddox --Fred Tullis-Duane Beckham--were fighting  for that top 5 ...Larry did well ......But like most Great Drivers his first 10 years of his Racing from 1960 to about 1969 was a learning thing for him ..Not many drivers win right out of the Boat..Race Car Driving in a Talent that is learned not BOUGHT with money..And it can take some years like it did with Larry Phillips

  Larry found his calling in about 1970 in Late Models and WAS ONE OF THE BEST EVER he has been runjing late already for the about 10 years..I watched larry Phillips run alot of races his first 10 years in the 60s and he earned his place and talent and worked hard at it to become good...He diserves everything he won and did in Racing after them first t10 years..

  Larry Phillip also was a very good Sportmans..My dad Jack Belk and Larry were very good friends,,back in the 60s Jack Belk was a dominate force at all tracks he ran at and Larry was his friend because he was drawn to that type success...If you beat Larry you were his friend because it made him better to get beat....And he wanted to learn for you.....Larry Phillip did get Fired by Jay Carnes in 1966 ,,Jay Fired Larry because he spun out 3 times in one night and was getting beat..{{SO JAY FIRED LARRY TO BACK UP MISTER Ts STATEMENT}} and hired Jack Belk to drive  his #5 car..Larry a friend of Jack Belks came over and said good luck Jack i could not win with it..A few weeks later Larry finshed ahead of Belk in another car...They talked after  the race with smiles on there faces and were good friends...What pushed then 2 as friend was that they could get the best out of each other and they LOVED It...Not one time did i ever see Larry mad at anybody but himself and that was him only wanting to get better,.,,AND HE DID,,i was proud to call Larrty Phillips my friend .The way Larry Phillip learned to be a Great Race Car DRIVER IS THE WAY EVERY DRIVER SHOULD LEARN,,, AGAINST THE BEST HE COULD FIND TO RACE AGAINST...LARRY GOT THE BEST OUT OF OTHERS AND HE WANTED IT NO OTHER WAY...becuase Larry Gave his best every Race because he learned that way..

Tim Belk


Win as if you are use to it.And lose as if you enjoyed 
it for a change.Its hard to get to the top and alot 
harder to stay there.



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