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deicer
February 16, 2018 at 03:32:43 PM
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What are the green or blue LED lights behind drivers seat,havent seen them before. 




chilly
February 16, 2018 at 03:56:04 PM
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I think they're a link to timing/scoring... so when timing/scoring turns the light red/yellow due to flip/spin, the red/yellow LED light on the back of the car turns on alerting other drivers.  It's not always easy to see the caution lights at some tracks... could help prevent another tragedy, ala BC.  

https://twitter.com/timclauson/status/964225446048124928



revjimk
February 16, 2018 at 07:13:15 PM
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I was wondering about that at Chil Bowl too....




revjimk
February 16, 2018 at 08:00:24 PM
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This message was edited on February 16, 2018 at 08:23:04 PM by revjimk

I was wondering about the blue lights also, until I realized they were advertising "Fryers, broilers & Detroit barbeque ribs"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuPW-MGnR5o



Chet C.
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February 16, 2018 at 09:18:52 PM
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Posted By: deicer on February 16 2018 at 03:32:43 PM

What are the green or blue LED lights behind drivers seat,havent seen them before. 



If you watch this Facebook Live, at about 25 minutes in USAC Racing’s Levi Jones gives a very nice explanation.

https://www.facebook.com/speedshifttv/videos/1627149427353906/



chilly
February 19, 2018 at 03:54:54 PM
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Posted By: Chet C. on February 16 2018 at 09:18:52 PM

If you watch this Facebook Live, at about 25 minutes in USAC Racing’s Levi Jones gives a very nice explanation.

https://www.facebook.com/speedshifttv/videos/1627149427353906/



Thanks for that link! 

FYI for others, the 3 lights are all blue and all 3 lights 'strobe' on each car when officials bring out a caution/red flag.  It sounds like there is also a yellow light that luminates on the instrument panel of each car when a caution/red comes out.  In addition to that, the units are tied to timing/scoring and the leader has the middle light lit up, 2nd place has the outside 2 lights lit up, and 3rd place has all 3 lights lit up.  It sounds like the unit is like a transponder... they give it to you when you sign in and you give it back to USAC at the end of the night.

Kudos to USAC for coming up with this idea, testing it, making some changes, and ultimately putting it into production.  If they find that it works well, hopefully other racing series (WoO, All Stars, ASCS, etc) and tracks that regulary run sprints implement it as well.  I would think that Knoxville (and other tracks) could purchase these with funds raised by their charitable organizations.  The more safety options, the better.  




YungWun24
February 19, 2018 at 04:04:11 PM
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Posted By: chilly on February 19 2018 at 03:54:54 PM

Thanks for that link! 

FYI for others, the 3 lights are all blue and all 3 lights 'strobe' on each car when officials bring out a caution/red flag.  It sounds like there is also a yellow light that luminates on the instrument panel of each car when a caution/red comes out.  In addition to that, the units are tied to timing/scoring and the leader has the middle light lit up, 2nd place has the outside 2 lights lit up, and 3rd place has all 3 lights lit up.  It sounds like the unit is like a transponder... they give it to you when you sign in and you give it back to USAC at the end of the night.

Kudos to USAC for coming up with this idea, testing it, making some changes, and ultimately putting it into production.  If they find that it works well, hopefully other racing series (WoO, All Stars, ASCS, etc) and tracks that regulary run sprints implement it as well.  I would think that Knoxville (and other tracks) could purchase these with funds raised by their charitable organizations.  The more safety options, the better.  



I agree it's a good idea, and an even better idea for tracks that lack adequate lighting and caution lights, which Knoxville covers both of those exceptionally well. 

A more feasible idea for a traveling series, as I'd venture to guess that most tracks do not have something like the KRCO, nor multiple caution lights through the turns, including a large big screen. 

 


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chilly
February 19, 2018 at 05:43:08 PM
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Posted By: YungWun24 on February 19 2018 at 04:04:11 PM

I agree it's a good idea, and an even better idea for tracks that lack adequate lighting and caution lights, which Knoxville covers both of those exceptionally well. 

A more feasible idea for a traveling series, as I'd venture to guess that most tracks do not have something like the KRCO, nor multiple caution lights through the turns, including a large big screen. 

 



Agreed on all accounts!



nzsprint
February 19, 2018 at 08:28:33 PM
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Its a good idea and has its merits, but I personally dont see how it addresses the underlying issue of the open unprotected space above a drivers head in Midgets, SIlvercrowns and Sprintcars.

There are many cases where a crash happens and a car cannot avoid the accident in front of them and hitting a car in the drivers compartment. No amount of flashing lights can protect a driver in that situation. Peter Murphy's crash is a good example, it was just a pileup of cars and Peter got hit through that gap in the top of the cage.  

There are some great options, KPC Chassis had an H shaped design to protect the head area, EMi/Eagle put a design on their Facebook page just recently in a similar H shape. Both these are welded to the cage which can make driver extraction difficult. Other bolt-on halos and driver head protection is available so should a driver need to be extracted from a car you can unbolt the head protection system and remove the driver. A saw should be part of any crash crews standard equipment though.

Yes these systems spread the impact to the chassis and yes you do see chassis collapse around the drivers compartment because thats what a halo is designed to do, take the energy that was going to hit and driver and move it to the chassis.

A car going 60-100mph into a drivers head is not solved by flashing lights. We need to better protect our drivers.

 

 





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