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dirtracert74
January 28, 2013 at 08:02:59 PM
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Anyone heard anything about bids on Enid




reflog
January 30, 2013 at 05:27:48 PM
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I talked to Barnes a week or two ago, and he said he hasn't even started to get the bid process going. If a person wants to pay $1000.00 per race day they could come talk to him. No concessions or anything of course like always.....take it for what it's worth, just what he told me. Doesn't sound to promising to me?!



bigdaddy07
February 07, 2013 at 06:29:51 PM
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If that is the truth then Barnes is an even bigger idiot than most people already know him to be.



David Smith Jr
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February 07, 2013 at 07:13:42 PM
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Kip Hughes called Steve Barnes about Enid Speedway Friday and they talked about the track and Mr. Barnes said that they will be putting the information in the Newspaper about what will be goin on very soon. And he said that they would give up the concession's & work with them to give the track what it needs to get back up and goin like it use to be


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RCAR
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February 08, 2013 at 02:44:46 AM
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The fair board better get things figured out, times are too tough for a promoter to pay a grand a week to promote races. They could check with Dodge city, they pay the promoters to run a 7 million dollar track over 10 grand per race and still loose 70 grand plus every year to create "tourism"

bigdaddy07
February 08, 2013 at 06:45:12 PM
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This should have been taken care of prior to the end of last years racing season. Now, whoever ends up promoting will be hard pressed to get any touring series scheduled, not to mention time to get a rules package together. Just another example of how poorly run the Garfield county fairgrounds is. Glad to see they are finally agreeing to give the promotors the concessions though. I wish they would just sell the property to someone who would do what it takes to bring the track back to glory without having to worry about doing the work and getting forced out after 2-3 years.

RCAR
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February 09, 2013 at 02:47:18 AM
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This message was edited on February 09, 2013 at 02:47:59 AM by RCAR
Why is it that everyone thinks there is money to be made in the race promoting game. The only guys smart enough to run a track are also smart enough not to. They can make twice as much with half the headache in anything else. And then sleep at night. Enid is done, its been a money looser for 15 years and will never make a come back. Sorry.

bigdaddy07
February 11, 2013 at 06:55:12 PM
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This message was edited on February 11, 2013 at 06:55:56 PM by bigdaddy07
RCAR: Race promotion, if done properly, can be profitable. One only has to look at C Ray Hall and Lanny Edwards to see that this is true. The problem with Enid doesn't lie solely with the promotors. It lies with the county. They have refused, in the past, to extend long term contracts or allow the promotors any profit from concessions. And now they haven't given this years promotors a chance by waiting far too long to grant the contract. Most, if not all, tracks and touring series already have their scheduling complete.

RCAR
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February 11, 2013 at 10:12:15 PM
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Exactly, there used to be profit in promoting auto racing, the 2 you cite made it long ago but not these days, they will soon be retired and gone. There used to be enough money for the fairgrounds to sign up a promoter to a deralick deal but they can't make it anymore , they go broke faster and faster every year. It seems even C Ray don't want no more Enid events, so its all history or until a sucker comes along and signs up to make a run at it. Its a dead horse and can not be rode to town no more.

Tired of all the crybabes !!
February 12, 2013 at 04:01:57 PM
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It's CRAZY how some people can talk so negative on Enid Speedway !!! They must be the people that bitch about , It's to HoT , it's to dusty , or they don't even go to the races anymore , or hav sold there cars , or it's to expensive !!! This how all the rumor's get started like there goin to bull doze it down , won't giv up the concession's & etc. Mr. Barnes is willing to work with anyone that wants the track. They just need to call and talk to him. Enid Speedway is one of the nicest track around. C-ray showed last season that it can work the car count was very good and there was a great crowd in the grandstands !!! We hav to stay positive about Enid and if U don't hav anything good to say keep to yourself because lots of US don't want to here it .....

bigdaddy07
February 12, 2013 at 06:08:07 PM
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Dang, for someone so tired of crybabies u sure cry a lot. If u don't like the negative comments and people voicing their displeasure with Barnes and the county maybe u should find another forum. Unfortunately it may be too little too late for Barnes and the county to try to get a quality promotor. C Ray tried several times a few years back to get a five year contract and the concessions and the county refused to grant it. Mr Hall has proved that the track can be commercially viable if done right.

RCAR
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February 12, 2013 at 10:00:00 PM
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If it so viable, then why don't C Ray have a full season scheduled. Truth be known he probably lost half of his left cheek last year. If its so viable go rent the place, you know its for lease. Show us how its done. Not trying to be negative, just add up the cost to open the gate. You would need 100 cars and 1000 people to break even and oh did i mention you need it to not rain on race night and the 4 or 5 racer motormouths to go fishing.

bigdaddy07
February 13, 2013 at 12:37:39 PM
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If I had the time and finances required to start from scratch, and the county would be willing to grant me a 5 year contract and all of the concession, I would be more than happy to take control of the track. Unfortunately, I do not.

I don't know if you actually went to any of C Ray's Enid shows last year but he had an excellent car count on most nights and the crowds were very good as well. So in your estimation he should have "broken even". And there is no reason that the right person (or group) could not make a good go of it at the Enid track. It would require some coordination with C Ray (81 Speedway) to help boost each other's car counts but it could be done quite easily.



Tired of all the crybabes !!
February 13, 2013 at 03:35:24 PM
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I knew this would get the cry babies attention u all just talk negative negative negative. That's why I did it. And sorry I am NOT the one crying about it. U two where the ones talkin shot about Enid and now u want to change it ALL around and make me look like the bad guy. WE know it's goin to take time to get back to racing every weekend that's why they went to monthly so we could get the cars & the people back. Doesn't take a Einstein to figure that out. Nobody said Mr. Barnes is the best for Enid but now WE all hav got him to open his eyes and see what ALL has been goin on so he is willing to work with someone on this thats all !!! I and a lot of others would like to see it happen !!! JusT Sayin

RCAR
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February 13, 2013 at 05:28:20 PM
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This message was edited on February 13, 2013 at 05:28:50 PM by RCAR
What looks good to the racers and spectators seldom looks so good in the cash box at the end of a race when the bills and purse is taken out. IM TELLING YOU THERE IS NO MONEY IN PROMOTING. Just why is C Ray backing out, only one reason no profit, period. Anyone with enough money to get started up is going to hang onto it, there is no telling where we will be in another year with Obama. We all wish racing could be where it was 10 or 15 years ago but its not cost to build the cars these days versus what a track can pay sucks. Everything cost a lot more lately, gas, food, and everything else. Let's just wish for a new Disney land in Oklahoma while were wishing, we get 3 wishes don't we.

dirtrack234
February 13, 2013 at 11:27:13 PM
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RCAR your wrong about one thing in your previous post. Im not so sure we have to worry about rain on a race night the way it keeps looking.
JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

dirtrack234
February 13, 2013 at 11:30:43 PM
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I have missed this forum I think its been a couple years since I have been on here.
JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234                  
Yesterday 
is history, 
tomorrow is a mystery, and today is a gift. That is 
why they call it the present.

bigdaddy07
February 14, 2013 at 02:32:56 PM
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This message was edited on February 14, 2013 at 02:43:39 PM by bigdaddy07

Did it ever occur to you that maybe (just maybe) the reason why C Ray might not want to run Enid is because he doesn't have the time investment needed to run 3 tracks and 5 touring series all at the same time. He isn't getting any younger you know. I would be curious to hear what he has to say on the subject though.

I still firmly believe that given the right people the Enid track can be viable again. The track can not be run like it has been in the past. Promotors must be willing to work with each other to make things work. There are far too many different rules for the different tracks. I (and I am guessing you) would much rather watch 30 cars each in 3 different classes than 15 cars each in 6 different classes. Racers have to be willing to change too (oh God no). And, finally, we need to be better about promoting the future of racing. We need to be directing our youth to the thrills and excitement associated with racing.



Tired of all the crybabes !!
February 14, 2013 at 03:56:56 PM
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I am totally with u all on the RULES !! I think they all should be the same at ALL tracks that way if a person wants to run out of town somewhere they font hav to change a bunch of stuff on the cars to do so !!! And if they would calm the rules down just a little it could be a lot more competitive in certain classes ... And even might keep the cost's down. And a BUNCH of people must really care about ENID SPEEDWAY because there is like over 1285 views at lookin on what is goin on and what should be goin on .....

RCAR
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February 15, 2013 at 05:07:29 AM
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This message was edited on February 15, 2013 at 05:19:55 AM by RCAR
If there was 50 cents in it C Ray would make time. Promoters work together, yeah right, get real, promoters are all like our political parties, its their way or no way. And as far as promoters go that are willing to gamble big buck they should run it their own way. The day of 30 car classes for a weekly show are gone. Anything over a 20 car field is just bonus money, after all last place want s the promoter to pay him for just being there. Who knows C Ray may be just playing stalemate with the fair board till they give him a better deal, but my bet is they will need to pay him at least a grand from the concessions and $1 rent for him to want to play again. 1285 views is nothing, that's the same 100 looking over and over. Now, if you had 5000 views you might get to race at Enid again. The Lubbock closed up at end of last year and they had named the track right"LADY LUCK SPEEDWAY" must of crapped out or hit on a 17 cause they went bust. No word yet on any new owners, and everyone including me thought they were going well.



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