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saphead
September 23, 2018 at 01:56:17 PM
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Got a good ol' good one going on Twitter. 




glhayden
September 23, 2018 at 03:28:19 PM
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Looks likes Mr. Ballou let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird ass and got "uninvited" to ever show his face at Eldora again. Gonna be interesting to see if he ever does, especially if Tony is on the premises. It's Tony's sandbox and he can decide if someone is no longer welcome to play in it.



dsc1600
September 23, 2018 at 04:11:58 PM
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 Both of them are blowhards. I actually like Eldora the way it is now. 



miledirtfan
September 23, 2018 at 04:13:15 PM
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I like Robert, but he’s just wrong on this one



revjimk
September 23, 2018 at 04:21:56 PM
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Posted By: glhayden on September 23 2018 at 03:28:19 PM

Looks likes Mr. Ballou let his alligator mouth overload his hummingbird ass and got "uninvited" to ever show his face at Eldora again. Gonna be interesting to see if he ever does, especially if Tony is on the premises. It's Tony's sandbox and he can decide if someone is no longer welcome to play in it.



Really? Sounded like Tony offered him a shot at track prep....

Did i miss something?



MIDDLEFINGER
September 23, 2018 at 04:45:45 PM
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RodinCanada
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September 23, 2018 at 05:18:38 PM
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After a short google at Ballou i cant determine if he is more than a racer. Could someone please bring me up to date on who he is and what he said and why he thinks Tony Stewart show take him seriously? Sorry Ford, I tried.



glhayden
September 23, 2018 at 05:38:36 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on September 23 2018 at 04:21:56 PM

Really? Sounded like Tony offered him a shot at track prep....

Did i miss something?



You sure did!



dsc1600
September 23, 2018 at 05:59:55 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on September 23 2018 at 05:18:38 PM

After a short google at Ballou i cant determine if he is more than a racer. Could someone please bring me up to date on who he is and what he said and why he thinks Tony Stewart show take him seriously? Sorry Ford, I tried.



I hope this response is tongue in cheek....

Any driver that risks his life by strapping into a car at Stewarts track should Be taken seriously, however Ballou has worn out his welcome with his tantrums etc.. 



brenterl
September 23, 2018 at 07:02:52 PM
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Johnny Gibson weighed in saying Eldora's track prep is better now than it ever was when Earl ran the place. Being my home track and going there since the early 70s I have to disagree. I don't see that much difference except they run the bottom more than they used to. There were good tracks and bad tracks when Earl prepped it and the same thing now with Tony Stewart. Ballou has always whined much like Stewart has so I thought it was fitting they would get into a pissing match on twitter.The track has always been too fast for the midgets in my opinion and I've seen some of the most violent crashes when they run the Big E. Greg Wilson said in his interview after Friday's race the track was how it should be and the racing was very good all weekend I thought. Been to the last 20 Knoxville Nationals and their track prep is the most consistent that I have seen but I think everyone would agree it's a tough job.



revjimk
September 23, 2018 at 11:39:04 PM
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Posted By: glhayden on September 23 2018 at 05:38:36 PM

You sure did!



I read the tweet posted above. Looks like Tony challenged Ballou to do better...I don't see anything about banning him. If you have more info, please share it



revjimk
September 23, 2018 at 11:40:44 PM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on September 23 2018 at 05:18:38 PM

After a short google at Ballou i cant determine if he is more than a racer. Could someone please bring me up to date on who he is and what he said and why he thinks Tony Stewart show take him seriously? Sorry Ford, I tried.



Ballou is a DAMN good wingless racer, has been USAC season champ. He's criticized track prep before



revjimk
September 23, 2018 at 11:56:47 PM
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This message was edited on September 24, 2018 at 12:18:41 AM by revjimk
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Posted By: RodinCanada on September 23 2018 at 05:18:38 PM

After a short google at Ballou i cant determine if he is more than a racer. Could someone please bring me up to date on who he is and what he said and why he thinks Tony Stewart show take him seriously? Sorry Ford, I tried.



Check out discussion of this on Indiana Open Wheel forum. Its all wingless fans , who mostly seem to like & respect Ballou. but think he's wrong on this

All  I know is he's an excellent driver, ballsy & fun to watch... & everybody has an opinion on track prep ( except me. I can tell if a race is good or not, but not WHY) 



RodinCanada
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September 24, 2018 at 12:05:43 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on September 23 2018 at 05:59:55 PM

I hope this response is tongue in cheek....

Any driver that risks his life by strapping into a car at Stewarts track should Be taken seriously, however Ballou has worn out his welcome with his tantrums etc.. 



Thanks to those who responded. My question wasn't a poke at either Ballou or Stewart. I understand every driver has an opinion and should be able to ask the track owner about any concern. I guess I was wondering if he was just a driver or someone who had some authority to represent all drivers like a sanctioning director etc.



revjimk
September 24, 2018 at 12:22:36 AM
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Posted By: RodinCanada on September 24 2018 at 12:05:43 AM

Thanks to those who responded. My question wasn't a poke at either Ballou or Stewart. I understand every driver has an opinion and should be able to ask the track owner about any concern. I guess I was wondering if he was just a driver or someone who had some authority to represent all drivers like a sanctioning director etc.



No official standing other than popular, competitive driver & 2015 National  Champ

Did you check out IOW? Try to get to Indiana some day, wingless sprints on bullrings are great!



MandGRacing96
September 24, 2018 at 07:13:28 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on September 24 2018 at 12:22:36 AM

No official standing other than popular, competitive driver & 2015 National  Champ

Did you check out IOW? Try to get to Indiana some day, wingless sprints on bullrings are great!



Reading some on twitter and alot of drivers(including bayston) said that the track prep was awsome. 



chathamracefan1
September 24, 2018 at 07:52:02 AM
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I sort of don't understand the point Ballou is making.  He wants it more juiced up but then is coming from a safety angle also.  It would seem having it more juiced up is gonna make it faster (obviously) & inherently more dangerous due to higher speeds.  Even when it is slicked off, Eldora is a big boy track.  As mentioned earlier, the midgets may have crosseed the threshold of being too fast/too small to run that track anymore.  That is someone else's call to make though.

I've been to lots of late model shows at Eldora & a few sprint car shows.  Seems there is more passing in the big races in recent years than in the past.  Especially for the big late model shows, it seems the winners are coming from the middle/bottom once the track slicks off.  



Jamie Klootwyk
September 24, 2018 at 08:24:29 AM
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After watching the video of all 4 features I have to say the track and racing were awesome.  The midget feature was first and the track was still somewhat tacky and that's when Bayston crashed so I honestly don't get Ballou's post at all.

 

One has to think he was just mad because he wrecked himself and had to blame someone.



RRacer70
September 24, 2018 at 09:48:59 AM
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Track prep can be a real pain with the dirt, clay soil changing with the weather.  There is so much in this game. Even what class you run first has an effect on the surface. How many laps you put on it. How many loads of water.

Every weekend conditions can change. 

Some weekends it is perfect others you wonder what went wrong. It is a time consuming chore to get it right.

Eldora has always been known when you crash you CRASH.

 



SAF92
September 24, 2018 at 10:51:12 AM
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I love and appreciate everything Tony has done for Eldora and sprint car racing in general. But at the same time Ballou's and Tony's comments have me wondering... While the track conditions at Eldora have been different in recent years vs. years past, I agree the recent years have created great races and somewhat equalized competition. But at the same time I miss when Eldora was wet n' heavy, high banked, and right on the wall. I didn't really mind the fact it was follow the leader, its the Eldora I fell in love with.

I don't know if the recent track prep has been done by choice or the amount of moisture is naturally limited by the current dirt/clay... But I would be highly interested to see someone do the track prep who wants a wet, heavy track with a big cushion. I really hope Ballou takes him up on his offer next year to see how it goes.





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