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EagleGirl
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February 24, 2016 at 01:54:49 PM
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RaceSaver IMCA Sprint Nationals Purse has increased again!

One of the Nation’s biggest sprint car events is getting even bigger. RaceSaver IMCA Sprint Nationals will once again be hosted at Eagle Raceway in 2016. September 1st will be practice and pre-technical inspection. September 2nd-4th will be separate shows again with the top nine from Friday and Saturday’s events locking themselves into the Big Dance on Sunday. The top nine from Sunday’s last chance races will also qualify. 27 cars will once again start 3 wide on the highbanks. Friday and Saturday’s features will pay the same amount, $700 to win and $250 to start. However another big increase in purse has been decided on for Sunday’s Big Dance. In 2015 the Feature event purse alone totaled $33, 600 with $2,000 to win and $1,000 just to start the main event. In 2016, the main event purse totals $46,700 with $2,500 to win and $1,250 to start! Non-qualifiers on Sunday will also still receive a minimum of $250. We will be doing the non-qualifier sponsorships again this year and hope to raise twice as much money and contingencies as last year. Make sure you mark your calendars for Eagle Raceway’s RaceSaver IMCA Sprint Nationals 2016 addition!

 

RaceSaver Sprints Friday & Saturday Night’s Purse

1st $700, 2nd $500, 3rd $400, 4th $350, 5th $350, 6th $325, 7th $300, 8th $295, 9th $290, 10th $285, 11th $280, 12th $275, 13th $270, 14th $265, 15th $260, 16th $255, 17th-20th $250

Total: $6,400    Non Qualifiers -$100        Tow-$50

 

Friday: Support Class: Lightning Sprints

Qualifying 9 positions (Rows 1-3) for Sunday’s Big Dance

Qualifying for Saturday’s Race of Champions (Rain Plan: Start early Saturday)

 

Saturday: Support Classes: Lightning Sprints & NAPA IMCA SportMods

Qualifying 9 positions (Rows 4-6) for Sunday’s Big Dance

Race of Champions Main Event- $1,000 to win (Rain Plan: Start early Sunday)

 

RaceSaver Sprints Sunday Night Purse

1st $2,500, 2nd $2,400, 3rd $2,300, 4th $2,200, 5th $2,150, 6th $2,100, 7th $2,050, 8th $2,000, 9th $1,950, 10th $1,900, 11th $1,850, 12th $1,800, 13th $1,750, 14th $1,700, 15th $1,650, 16th $1,600, 17th $1,550, 18th $1,500, 19th $1,450, 20th $1,400, 21st $1,350, 22nd $1,300, 23rd-27th $1,250

Total Big Dance Purse: $46,700, Non Qualifiers: Minimum of $250, Tow:$100

 

Sunday: Support Classes: Valentino’s IMCA Hobby Stocks & IMCA Sport Compacts

Last Chance Qualifying Races for 9 positions (Rows 7-9) lined up by previous days’ accumulated points. The Big Dance will consist of 9 rows of cars starting 3 wide.

(Rain Date: Monday, Sept 5th)

 

The Registration Forms for Sprint Nationals will be available starting on March 1st 2016 at noon! Forms will be on www.racesaver.com under the Sprint Nationals Section. Pit Stalls can only be reserved when we have your paperwork.


Thanks for supporting Eagle Raceway "America's Home 
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vande77
February 25, 2016 at 01:01:37 PM
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I forsee people complaining about 360 and 410 teams dropping 305's in their cars in the near future if they keep raising the purses for 305's (same debate that happened with 360 racing and drove the costs up everyone says).

I thought this was an "entry level" class. 



facebookstalker
February 25, 2016 at 01:46:03 PM
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Wow, that is a great payout for 305s..




blazer00
February 25, 2016 at 02:30:19 PM
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Posted By: vande77 on February 25 2016 at 01:01:37 PM

I forsee people complaining about 360 and 410 teams dropping 305's in their cars in the near future if they keep raising the purses for 305's (same debate that happened with 360 racing and drove the costs up everyone says).

I thought this was an "entry level" class. 



The RaceSaver rule book will need a lot of changing if the costs are going to rise very much at all. I don't think the RaceSaver 305's will follow the mistakes of the other series' that intended to keep costs affordable. The growth seen in the past few years or so indicates that they are on the right track. 



VoiceOfTheSpeedway
February 25, 2016 at 02:43:31 PM
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This message was edited on February 25, 2016 at 02:54:51 PM by VoiceOfTheSpeedway

The class was never called "entry level" (although it HAS allowed many newcomers to the sprint car ranks-some of whom are doing VERY well)..... but rather called "affordable"......the rules are written so that if more $$$ is spent, it dosen't necessarily equate to more speed.......it's meant to level the playing field of the equipment, not driving and setup ability......the key factor is RULES ENFORCEMENT........and I think things are working just fine.......really looking forward to the biggest Nationals yet in 2016.........SC

 

 



raced24
February 25, 2016 at 03:29:46 PM
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Not a big fan of 305 racing, but car counts don`t lie. This class is going somewhere.




vande77
February 25, 2016 at 03:34:09 PM
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Posted By: VoiceOfTheSpeedway on February 25 2016 at 02:43:31 PM

The class was never called "entry level" (although it HAS allowed many newcomers to the sprint car ranks-some of whom are doing VERY well)..... but rather called "affordable"......the rules are written so that if more $$$ is spent, it dosen't necessarily equate to more speed.......it's meant to level the playing field of the equipment, not driving and setup ability......the key factor is RULES ENFORCEMENT........and I think things are working just fine.......really looking forward to the biggest Nationals yet in 2016.........SC

 

 



and the 360's were touted as "affordable" back in the day too....



Eagle Pit Shack Guy
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February 26, 2016 at 07:52:43 AM
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Posted By: vande77 on February 25 2016 at 03:34:09 PM

and the 360's were touted as "affordable" back in the day too....



And the rules were constantly changed, which is NOT the case with the Racesaver series!!!


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Shortie12
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February 26, 2016 at 09:59:58 AM
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Posted By: Eagle Pit Shack Guy on February 26 2016 at 07:52:43 AM

And the rules were constantly changed, which is NOT the case with the Racesaver series!!!




I   hope they stick by their rules and the class will still be affordable if any racing is.The 360s changed their ascs head rule and Knoxvilles 305s are not cheap and I was told crate engines might be allowed.The best way to improve a purse is more entries as the pit gate improves with each pit pass.Races such as the Chili Bowl and IMCA Boone Nationals have huge car counts with moderate purses [A PROMOTERS DREAM]




VoiceOfTheSpeedway
February 26, 2016 at 07:37:33 PM
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You mean the Boone "Supernationals"......The A Mods at Boone would "kill" for a purse that pays back like that (and most cars have more $$$$ in them than the Racesaver sprints do......LOL,  the Knoxville 360 Nationals A Main purse  totaled 46,000 (10,000 to win, 600 to start) and only the top 4 made more than next year's Racesaver A main winner will..........I can see a possible rule in the future that may require a driver to compete in a minimum number of Racesaver events during the regular season to be eligible to compete.......time will tell.............as I said, can't wiat til' Labor Day weekend........SC



trecraft
February 27, 2016 at 04:44:26 PM
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Posted By: facebookstalker on February 25 2016 at 01:46:03 PM

Wow, that is a great payout for 305s..



You don't get to say that very often.  Best part here it's true. It's so good they aren't ashamed to post it like others are.



dmantx
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February 28, 2016 at 08:14:17 AM
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..."the Knoxville 360 Nationals A Main purse  totaled 46,000 (10,000 to win, 600 to start) and only the top 4 made more than next year's Racesaver A main winner will..."

To clarify, the actual 2015 Knoxville 360 Nationals total purse (which is posted on their site) last year totalled $101,000; with qualifying nights paying $3,000 to win and $250/start...and the championship night is $10,000 to win and $1,000 to start.  http://www.knoxvilleraceway.com/Event/knoxville-360-nationals  

Then there are events for that division such as the Short Track Nationals and Trophy Cup that pay in excess of that total amount.

Back to the RaceSaver Sprint Cars specifically, there are over 1,000 licensed RaceSaver Sprint Cars in the U.S. Last I heard from French I think it was more like 1,100; and there have been very few rules changes over the past several years, really.

In Texas, we're having consistently really good races - and honestly - the vast majority of the fans here don't give two flips about 'what' type of sprint cars they are, as long as there's a decent field and decent racing. So it makes good sense for all, as it is keeping ticket prices in check as well.

As far as 'racing' is concerned, here's video's from last night's RaceSaver Sprint Car feature at KSP (started 25 cars, $1,000 to win)...no lack of action or side by side racing here:

https://youtu.be/8Ai04LX6fq4

And two weeks ago at LoneStar...27 RaceSaver Sprint Cars competed for $1,200 to win and $300/start with no entry fee...again, great racing action:

https://youtu.be/_KXemtbg_TM

https://youtu.be/4gQVYvFTCYw

The RaceSaver Sprint Car events at Red River Speedway have been just as exciting. Here's a video from the last event: https://vimeo.com/142101067  (and note that this was the RaceSaver vs Champ Sprint division, so you will see some races with sprints with 16SF wings, which are the Champ cars)

The point of all of this is, I can't speak for some of the tracks that are racing "305's" across the country, but the many tracks I've either seen, or been involved with the RaceSaver Sprint Car division, there are no real complaints. And anyone who has taken a moment to watch some of the RaceSaver action at Eagle - they're not complaining either.

Have a great racing season everyone!  Smile




dude5x
February 28, 2016 at 10:21:54 AM
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You mean the Boone "Supernationals"......The A Mods at Boone would "kill" for a purse that pays back like that (and most cars have more $$$$ in them than the Racesaver sprints do......LOL,  the Knoxville 360 Nationals A Main purse  totaled 46,000 (10,000 to win, 600 to start) and only the top 4 made more than next year's Racesaver A main winner will..........I can see a possible rule in the future that may require a driver to compete in a minimum number of Racesaver events during the regular season to be eligible to compete.......time will tell.............as I said, can't wiat til' Labor Day weekend........SC



Boone only makes the promoter and IMCA rich and the drivers fall for it. Its a joke



kustomincorp
February 28, 2016 at 02:18:43 PM
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Posted By: vande77 on February 25 2016 at 01:01:37 PM

I forsee people complaining about 360 and 410 teams dropping 305's in their cars in the near future if they keep raising the purses for 305's (same debate that happened with 360 racing and drove the costs up everyone says).

I thought this was an "entry level" class. 



if a rule is put in place before this season starts ..that you must race at least 6 times in the racesaver class..the big money guys will leave this class alone..and let the guys that support it week in week out ..have a chance to get a shot at their big race.



VoiceOfTheSpeedway
February 28, 2016 at 05:10:21 PM
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Dmantx.....i was comparing only the A Main payout from the 360 Nationals (which was taken from the Nationals program) and the Racesaver A Main...........as you said....it's all good, love 360/410 racing also.....we've been blessed to have alot of geat sprint cation in our area.......at our home track, the difference in track records from Racesaver to ASCS 360 is 12.48 to 11.83.....with the exception of the burst of acceleration off the corner, there is little noticeable difference to the average fan.....on the longer tracks, it's more apparent........Your Texas guys are good racers and always do a great job when they travel up to the Nationals..........you should make the trip up this year.....................SC

 




EagleGirl
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March 01, 2016 at 12:06:41 PM
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Entry Forms for RaceSaver IMCA Sprint Nationals 2016 addition are now officially available on the website! Remember first Entry First Reserve basis on Pit Stall Requests. If you fax in your entry, please call us to confirm that we received it.   Here is the link to forms http://www.racesaver.com/sprint-nat…/forms-sprint-nationals/


Thanks for supporting Eagle Raceway "America's Home 
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vkracer51
March 02, 2016 at 01:26:42 PM
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I actually parked right beside one of the Racesaver 305 guys at the track we ran weekly. He told me year one his engine cost $2500 year two he was up to $4500 and by year three his most successful it was up to $8500. Just to be competitive on a weekly level in an "affordable class" at 2 racetracks. I believe Eagle was one of the two tracks. He traveled from Nebraska weekly to run in Des Moines. Now if the cost to be competitive isn't changing in this class how do you explain exactly what he was telling me? On top of that he didn't win every single week, seeing as how the guy parked on the other side of me won a lot of races also. But the two of them were the top 2 in the class almost every night. I don't see how they are controlling costs when the guys are increasing the engine budget yearly just like any other class? 



racer goin broke
March 02, 2016 at 10:15:01 PM
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I am from central pa, the home of another affordable sprint car class when it started.  The 358 limited sprints, the only thing limited about this class is the purse. An example of what happened in the 358's. I remember speaking with a limited sprint owner in 1992 and he had $4500 in his motor and was complaining about the cost; flash forward to today the cost is $30,000.

I spoke with a known engine builder in my area and 2 yrs ago he was getting $15000 for an engine and said the racers were nuts to spend that kind of money on a 305  but they keep coming and he keeps building.  I know a 305 racer that spent $4500 just for injection. 

Another thing is why are 305's allowed to run titanium. Also if it is supposed to be such an affordable class why is DMI and Zemco building special parts for 305's I am not against them doing it but if Racesaver lets the teams run these items it just puts the cost up. I know guys with high dollar 305's and they do alright but don't dominate.  All it takes is the high dollar cars to start winning and then the race is on to out spend each other to win.  Case in point 410

One last point going to a speck tire for the 305's was stupid. It just increased the cost for the racers when they use to be able to buy used tires for $20 a right rear. The only people who love a speck tire is Hoosier and the  new Racesaver owner. I spoke with a guy who races at Eagle and he said some guy's put new right rears on for heats and features.  He said Roger H makes fun of them in the drivers meetings.  I said well if he thinks it's stupid make a one tire a night rule but he never will because the more tires bought the more he and Racesaver laugh all the way to the bank.




dmantx
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March 03, 2016 at 01:22:46 AM
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Two different places in the RaceSaver rules it shows no titanium. I think the tech guys have been doing pretty well keeping things in check. 



racer goin broke
March 03, 2016 at 08:43:01 AM
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I just read the Racesaver rules on titanium and to me I seen no titanium brake parts and a size limit on rotating titanium parts. I asked a 305 racer in pennsylvania in the past are you allowed titanium and he laughed and said his whole car was loaded with titanium. 





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