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February 10, 2016 at
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SEMA to oppose action as threat to modified racecars and parts suppliers
WASHINGTON, PRNewswire — The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed a regulation to prohibit conversion of vehicles originally designed for on-road use into racecars. The regulation would also make the sale of certain products for use on such vehicles illegal. The proposed regulation was contained within a non-related proposed regulation entitled “Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles-Phase 2.”
- See more at: http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/news/epa-seeks-to-prohibit-conversion-of-vehicles-into-racecars#sthash.k6mYppBD.dpuf
Do your part. Takes 5 minutes at most.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tell-epa-withdraw-its-proposal-prohibit-conversion-vehicles-racecars-0
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February 10, 2016 at
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Before you do, make sure you check this link too. It goes into a little more detail
http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a28135/heres-what-the-epas-track-car-proposal-actually-means/
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February 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: JCWRacing10 on February 10 2016 at 09:39:27 AM
Before you do, make sure you check this link too. It goes into a little more detail
http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a28135/heres-what-the-epas-track-car-proposal-actually-means/
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give them an inch and they'll take a mile.......they never stop
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February 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: MIDDLEFINGER on February 10 2016 at 09:45:12 AM
give them an inch and they'll take a mile.......they never stop
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Don't disagree one bit, but it would be best to make sure all information available is known rather than just small tidbits.
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February 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: MIDDLEFINGER on February 10 2016 at 09:34:37 AM
SEMA to oppose action as threat to modified racecars and parts suppliers
WASHINGTON, PRNewswire — The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed a regulation to prohibit conversion of vehicles originally designed for on-road use into racecars. The regulation would also make the sale of certain products for use on such vehicles illegal. The proposed regulation was contained within a non-related proposed regulation entitled “Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles-Phase 2.”
- See more at: http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/news/epa-seeks-to-prohibit-conversion-of-vehicles-into-racecars#sthash.k6mYppBD.dpuf
Do your part. Takes 5 minutes at most.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tell-epa-withdraw-its-proposal-prohibit-conversion-vehicles-racecars-0
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Because our government doesn't have anything more important to worry about. Everything is going just fine......right?
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February 10, 2016 at
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Only Spec 410s nothing more nothing less.......... and people think I'm narrow minded. Hundreds of race tracks would close without entry level class revenue.
Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?
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February 10, 2016 at
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I concur. If the EPA bans shit boxes I don't see a problem
Stan Meissner
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February 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: MIDDLEFINGER on February 10 2016 at 09:34:37 AM
SEMA to oppose action as threat to modified racecars and parts suppliers
WASHINGTON, PRNewswire — The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed a regulation to prohibit conversion of vehicles originally designed for on-road use into racecars. The regulation would also make the sale of certain products for use on such vehicles illegal. The proposed regulation was contained within a non-related proposed regulation entitled “Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles-Phase 2.”
- See more at: http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/news/epa-seeks-to-prohibit-conversion-of-vehicles-into-racecars#sthash.k6mYppBD.dpuf
Do your part. Takes 5 minutes at most.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/tell-epa-withdraw-its-proposal-prohibit-conversion-vehicles-racecars-0
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Keep voting in these no mind liberal treehuggers and this is the crap you have to live with. These no minds just think money grows on trees for everybody but yet claim they are for the little guy.
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February 10, 2016 at
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Just put sensors on them that'll fix everything !!!!
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February 10, 2016 at
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Did anyone actually read the article?.....
Keep It Real
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February 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: YungWun24 on February 10 2016 at 04:57:16 PM
Did anyone actually read the article?.....
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Doubt it...
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February 10, 2016 at
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Now that I think about it, I concur with StanM and FORD97. If that means no more of that garbage, I'm fine with it. However if you read the article, it seems as if nothing is changing except maybe the wording. I don't think I've ever heard of the feds coming and shutting down a hobby stock race
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February 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: fiXXXer on February 10 2016 at 07:04:14 PM
Now that I think about it, I concur with StanM and FORD97. If that means no more of that garbage, I'm fine with it. However if you read the article, it seems as if nothing is changing except maybe the wording. I don't think I've ever heard of the feds coming and shutting down a hobby stock race
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A guy wants to race but can't spend thousands of dollars so he runs a hobby stock. You want to eliminate that? It must be so easy to watch from your ivory tower in bleachers.
"If you're gonna run the bottom, you might as well get
a real job."
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February 10, 2016 at
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Posted By: Ben 31 on February 10 2016 at 08:28:22 PM
A guy wants to race but can't spend thousands of dollars so he runs a hobby stock. You want to eliminate that? It must be so easy to watch from your ivory tower in bleachers.
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You want to spend $40 to watch 22 360s then do away with the hobby stocks and outlaw hornets
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February 10, 2016 at
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I don't understand all the hate vs other kinds of racing (excluding electric powered vehicles). These are the blue collar workers who love racing gas powered cars in the dirt. I see alot of common ground here and alot would race sprints or LMs if they had the money. If they get good and fall on good times or high dollar sponsorships they often end up there. They also bring some new fans to the sport giving all classes exposure and help fund from the back gate as well.
Where does the EPA stop after this? Seriously. Its just one step closer to this happening to sprint cars. Pretty soon electric powered cars will be all that can race even though they apparently leave a worse carbon footprint or whatever if you buy into the crap the left/the media try to feed us all the time.
Global warming won't end this world before God returns. In fact many studies have proven global warming is a myth. They just never get the liberal media to present these ideas to the masses.
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Posted By: IADIRT on February 10 2016 at 09:05:51 PM
I don't understand all the hate vs other kinds of racing (excluding electric powered vehicles). These are the blue collar workers who love racing gas powered cars in the dirt. I see alot of common ground here and alot would race sprints or LMs if they had the money. If they get good and fall on good times or high dollar sponsorships they often end up there. They also bring some new fans to the sport giving all classes exposure and help fund from the back gate as well.
Where does the EPA stop after this? Seriously. Its just one step closer to this happening to sprint cars. Pretty soon electric powered cars will be all that can race even though they apparently leave a worse carbon footprint or whatever if you buy into the crap the left/the media try to feed us all the time.
Global warming won't end this world before God returns. In fact many studies have proven global warming is a myth. They just never get the liberal media to present these ideas to the masses.
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Me thinks you watched a bit too many commercials leading up the the Iowa Caucus
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Posted By: IADIRT on February 10 2016 at 09:05:51 PM
I don't understand all the hate vs other kinds of racing (excluding electric powered vehicles). These are the blue collar workers who love racing gas powered cars in the dirt. I see alot of common ground here and alot would race sprints or LMs if they had the money. If they get good and fall on good times or high dollar sponsorships they often end up there. They also bring some new fans to the sport giving all classes exposure and help fund from the back gate as well.
Where does the EPA stop after this? Seriously. Its just one step closer to this happening to sprint cars. Pretty soon electric powered cars will be all that can race even though they apparently leave a worse carbon footprint or whatever if you buy into the crap the left/the media try to feed us all the time.
Global warming won't end this world before God returns. In fact many studies have proven global warming is a myth. They just never get the liberal media to present these ideas to the masses.
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Should have just hit "post reply" after the first few sentences.
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February 11, 2016 at
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February 11, 2016 at
05:37:12 PM by StanM
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Posted By: Ben 31 on February 10 2016 at 08:28:22 PM
A guy wants to race but can't spend thousands of dollars so he runs a hobby stock. You want to eliminate that? It must be so easy to watch from your ivory tower in bleachers.
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Wow, I didn't know they erected ivory towers in the infield or I'd have been sitting in one for years. Fact is if you look at my photo gallery you'll see that I have taken countless photos of Super Stocks, Street Stocks, Pure Stocks and Hornets. You'll probably also note that my race numbers have fallen off as I have cut back in an atempt to pay down debt before retirement. http://www.gotomn.com/gotomn-photo-gallery.htm
Since getting into my mid 60's I have backed off on weekly shows that include five or six low budget classes just to watch 18-20 360's race for fifteen minutes out of a five or six hour program. As you can see by the number of entry class photos I did my pennnace and have earned the right to sit those classes out. I used to include pieces about them in a column I was writing as well. So to sum it up, when I got on the north side of 60 I realized that life is getting shorter and that watching entry classes reminds me of golf. It's a lot of fun to play for those who are into it but it's boring as hell to watch. So if you want to take my place watching the shit boxes and give me shit about my ivory tower knock yourself out. I have watched thousands of laps of that type of racing and try to avoid it at all costs now.
Stan Meissner
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Posted By: IADIRT on February 10 2016 at 09:05:51 PM
I don't understand all the hate vs other kinds of racing (excluding electric powered vehicles). These are the blue collar workers who love racing gas powered cars in the dirt. I see alot of common ground here and alot would race sprints or LMs if they had the money. If they get good and fall on good times or high dollar sponsorships they often end up there. They also bring some new fans to the sport giving all classes exposure and help fund from the back gate as well.
Where does the EPA stop after this? Seriously. Its just one step closer to this happening to sprint cars. Pretty soon electric powered cars will be all that can race even though they apparently leave a worse carbon footprint or whatever if you buy into the crap the left/the media try to feed us all the time.
Global warming won't end this world before God returns. In fact many studies have proven global warming is a myth. They just never get the liberal media to present these ideas to the masses.
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Maybe you should call those Mitia Morons "Bundy's" in Utah. They can do an armed take over of a Dirt Track and invite their idiot friends. Then say they are not leaving till they save the Street Stocks. Then The FBI can run Street Stocks 24/7 till they get bored of the bad racing and 100's of caution flags. They would leave in 8 hours on their own unhramed.
Global warning a hoax? please,typical teanderthal. Sorry to tell ya but your god is an imaginary friend. He isn't coming back because he was never here in the firts place. Read a good science book.
Thoughts and prayers that you evolve someday.
I'm not counting on it.
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Posted By: StanM on February 11 2016 at 05:17:38 PM
Wow, I didn't know they erected ivory towers in the infield or I'd have been sitting in one for years. Fact is if you look at my photo gallery you'll see that I have taken countless photos of Super Stocks, Street Stocks, Pure Stocks and Hornets. You'll probably also note that my race numbers have fallen off as I have cut back in an atempt to pay down debt before retirement. http://www.gotomn.com/gotomn-photo-gallery.htm
Since getting into my mid 60's I have backed off on weekly shows that include five or six low budget classes just to watch 18-20 360's race for fifteen minutes out of a five or six hour program. As you can see by the number of entry class photos I did my pennnace and have earned the right to sit those classes out. I used to include pieces about them in a column I was writing as well. So to sum it up, when I got on the north side of 60 I realized that life is getting shorter and that watching entry classes reminds me of golf. It's a lot of fun to play for those who are into it but it's boring as hell to watch. So if you want to take my place watching the shit boxes and give me shit about my ivory tower knock yourself out. I have watched thousands of laps of that type of racing and try to avoid it at all costs now.
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As usual, you nailed it. Right on the money sir. I too didn't realize there were ivory towers at the Central PA sprint car tracks. I'm gonna go find me a seat in one of those!
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