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I've been accused of being Chuck Brennan, or someone who works for him. That's fine. I've never met Chuck Brennan and I know Tom Savage on a casual basis. From what I've heard, this press conference on Sunday is going to be amazing. The payouts at Badlands/Huset's in 2016 are going to be huge. I wish them the best. This is going to change sprint car racing moving forward.

Still plenty of room on the bandwagon. But I warn you, there will be only a few spots left after Sunday at 3pm. 

BIG J

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."

Good, glad the payouts are going to increase.  My only question is this:  How long will it be before it has to turn a profit or they cut purses?  Chuck is a businessman, if raising the weekly purses from $20,000 to $50,000 doesn't put more butts in the seats (and now he has 2 days worth of expenses), any smart businessman will do one of 2 things,  Increase admission prices (sounds like that was already his plan with seating for weekly shows anywhere from $15-100) or reduce costs (ie:  the purse will have to be cut).

I wish them nothing but the best and hope it means more $$ in the pocket of the racers.  However, thus far Chuck comes off as a snake oil salesman and someone with $$$ that has zero respect for the history of the racetrack or the sport of auto racing.  Just my observations thus far.

Will be an interesting off-season for sure....

It will be interesting, I'm sure. In regards to ticket prices, a track can set any price of course, but the price should, among other things, be in line with the talent on the track and the car count. Plus, a top heavy purse will not draw big car counts anymore. I'm not sure when promoters and track owners will figure that one out! If only 5-7 drivers have a realistic chance of winning, then somewhere along the way, the rest of the field needs to get paid or they will not show up. It's a simple equation, but the larger money teams don't seem to care, they want as much as they can get, and the promoters want the "big names" to show up. Give me 35-40 lower budget teams weekly vs a 17-20 car field with 5 top drivers any day of the week! It works like this....a purse that pays further back will draw car counts, car counts bring fans, fans pay the purse. A track owner that gets that ball rolling down hill will fill the pits, fill the stands, and fill his pockets! The top teams will make more, and so will the rest of the field. We'll see.

Darn good post, sir.

Earlier, he said 410s would be Saturday night along with 360s and Street Stocks. I don't see this guy as one to change his mind too quick. For him, yeah he'd rather have his big show on Saturday (here come speculation only) as he will have a party bus (or so I've heard) from his business in Sioux Falls to the races and back after the races where his partiers can whoop it up afterwards. You could get by with that on Saturday night but Sunday night would be a no as most people have to get back to work.

Could be interesting................................................

With all the uncertainity around Jackson and Husets about which track is going to run and what night they might run the track with the most to lose is Knoxville. If Jackson runs 410 on Friday and Husets runs 410 Saturday and 360 on Sunday night some local Sioux Falls teams might skip Knoxville and run local and not burn up all that diesel fuel and time going up and down the interstate. Remember Knoxville gets alot of fan support from the Sioux Falls area that might not be traveling near as much either. I really hope a compramise comes together and all 3 tracks thrive.

I read somewhere that Jackson plans to run 360's weekly on Friday's and have up to 4 or 5 NSL 410 races in '16.  

I am really confused here.  Below is the list of top 15 in Husets Points and the top 15 in Knoxville point.  I count 3 cars on both lists, Ian Madsen, Tim Kaeding, and Dusty Zomer.  TMac sits 16th, but it is pretty tought to call him a Husets "regular".  Perhaps I am being dense but how is a track that is 331 miles away racing on Saturday competing with Knoxville?  By that logic, isn't Wilmot Speedway (329 miles) St Francois County Speedway (371 miles) both competing with them.  And that would make 81 Speedway (396 miles) and Jackson Speedway (273 miles) both direct competitors as well?

It would seem to me that there is more than enough cars, along with space and population, to easily service both the Sioux Falls market and the Des Moines market with pretty minimal overlap.  Other than the ads for the KNoxville Nationals, which is pretty much everywhere, I have not seen Knoxville openly advertising in Sioux Falls and assume the same is true of Husets in Des Moines.

Husets

1)Dusty Zomer

2)Tim Kaeding

3)Ryan Bickett

4)Jody Rosenboom

5)Matt Juhl

6)Austin McCarl

7)Chuck McGillvray

8)Joe Riedel

9)Mark Dobmeier

10)Dylan Peterson

11)Eric Schulz

12)Justin Glaser

13)Logan Forler

14)Ian Madsen

15)Troy Schreurs

Top 15 Knoxville Points

1) Danny Lasoski

2)Justin Henderson

3)Terry McCarl

4)Ian Madsen

5)Brian Brown

6)Davey Heskin

7)Dusty Zomer

8)Lynton Jeffrey

9)Brooke Tatnell

10)Bronson Maeschen

11)Josh Schneiderman

12)Tim Kaeding

13)Dakota Hendrickson

14)Tasker Phillips

15)Dustin Selvage

I would think the Lunstra car, The BWW car, and Mark Dobmeier. Dylan Petersen and Matt Juhl have been at Knoxville for regular shows as well not every show been been there some. I just want all 3 tracks doing well and getting 20 to 25 cars.

If it is $5000.00 to win, that's a start....but it will also depend on how fast the money falls off from there. $750.00 to start is not enough with todays costs. Another incentive needs to go along with that. The problem is this.....3 excellent facilities looking at running on two nights (if Jackson goes to Fridays). The perfect scenerio would have been for Huset's to stay Sunday, and Jackson to go Friday, and all three tracks "marry" so to speak with an additional points fund to attract the most drivers to all three tracks, a fund seprarate from each tracks individual points fund. But....that is not the case. So, if Jackson were to decide to run 410's on Friday night, and "marry" Knoxville with a dual-track points fund in addition to each tracks individual points fund, that might provide enough incentive to pull 30-35 cars at each track weekly. That is the only other solution, because all three tracks running on Saturday simply doesn't work. 

Isn't it better for the NSL in a way they are running on Saturdays (if they are)

If they ran on Sundays, you'd be hard pressed to get many races during the summer if both Saturday and Sunday was blocked off your schedule.

Huset's wont get a NSL show on Saturdays because Knoxville has that night sewed up. The NSL won't run against Knoxville, that has already been established. Jackson will be wide open for Friday night NSL events even if there isn't a weekly show there on Fridays (but I think there will be). So, Huset's might be hard pressed to get a NSL show next year unless it's a weekday or Sunday night.

Of the 3 cars that are in question, 2 of them are based in Sioux Falls, with sponsors and owners who are in Sioux Falls.  I think it would be tough for them to go towing 350 miles every Saturday, away from the sponsors, to run for a lessor purse. 

So we are down to Ian Madsen as the 1 guy that is in question as to why Husets running Saturdays is bad for 410 racing?  It might be bad for Knoxville, but that is about it.  For the rest of racing, this is a good thing.

How come this is such a big deal yet there isn't concern about St Francois County running Saturdays?  Loyett chose to run some races there instead of Knoxville, yet the racing seemed to go on and be successful at both tracks.  I suspect that Husets running on Saturdays will provide the same, 410 racing at Knoxville and Husets at a fairly high level with quality racing at both facilities.

One other thing to consider.  Husets has the ability to build a real nice partnership with Grand Forks by running on Saturdays.  They are actually about 30 miles closer than Knoxville is and are averaging close to 20 cars a night.  I would imagine there are some drivers up there that are thrilled to have the chance to run every Saturday for a much larger purse. 

There are plenty of 410's to go around and Husets move to Saturdays is positive, with the exception of the die hard fans (a couple hundred at most) who are now torn between Saturdays at Knoxville or at Husets.

The NSL is going to focus on their big shows, and this Husets deal is great for them as well as it guarantees more 410 cars being built.  I see the NSL running more shows like they have at I-80 and Jackson Nationals, and probably sanctioning the new Husets Gold Cup.  I see them going away from the 1 off nights like they had during the "fair" speedweek.  The more 410 cars the more viable the NSL becomes.

I agree, if Husets..cough cough...Badlands & River Cites can team up for Friday-Saturday, that would be a great deal for sprint car racing in the Upper Midwest.  The car count at River Cities averaged about 30 cars each Friday night this year.  I'm pretty sure that a few of the Grand Forks cars would make the drive down on Saturdays.  If Jackson & Knoxville team up, then you could have the battle of the 1/2 mile'ers vs the bullringers.  Haha

I think NSL said they would never schedual races against Knoxville and Husets.  If Husets stays on sat. night for 410 that will cause some NSL problems.  I would hope Husets would schedual NSL races on Sunday or I am sure NSL will tell them  they get no NSL races.

Your point of River Cities and Badlands running on Friday/Saturday appealing to Grand Forks Drivers is a valid point.  There are several GF (NOSA) drivers that make an occasional trip to South Dakota, and might be more enticed with a bigger purse.  For the record, River Cities has been averaging 28-30 410's all season long and has been running B-mains each Friday all summer long for the first time in a long time.  The sport is definitely growing up north!

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$100,000 purse for opening night, I'm liking it!!!!

This kool aid cant be any worse then what Steve Rubin & Lyle Howey have been giving us the last 10 years!

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Ronald Reagan

This guy has changed his mind many times.   Last words spoken by the "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" was saturdays 410's, 305's, and street stocks,,,,Sundays 360's (Purposed purse of $2500 to win) and fill in with shitboxes and taxicabs.........

If the guy cared about racing owners or drivers he would make Sunday shows better so fans drivers had Friday Jackson Saturday Knoxville Sunday badlands but no this guy is all about him self if you watch the first 4 min  the you tube video of the presser it's clear he is not a fan