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I think it' s time to make major changes to winged 410 sprint car racing , for it to remain viable and the popular division it now is . What do you think ? and what would you do ? and do you think it will survive the popularity of 360 winged sprint car racing ?

Cut down the right sideboards - would do 2 things = help unhook the cars a bit - and let the fans see the drivers better. The way it is you can't see the drivers anymore with the large right side panels.

Give 'em bricks for RR tires = unhook the cars.

Increase min. weight to 1650 pounds - no need for unobtanium parts = less expense.

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I think it is time for everybody to run 360s.

I think 410's will be alright.The 360 class is the one I would be worried about.With money getting tighter and car counts going down,I think we will see tracks open up rules in the future to get more cars.If and when this happens more people will drop the 360 and go to the 410.As the top of the line 360 engines get more and more expensive,I believe they are killing themselves.Look at car counts this year at K-Ville,it has flip flopped,there are more 410's now than 360's.The ASCS national series couldn't fill half a field on their own,they rely on locals to fill the field.I enjoy all sprint car classes,but if given a choice,I, like most others prefer to watch 410's.All it will take is a few tracks in key areas to open up the rules and run 410's and we will see a resurgence.As the cost of engines becomes closer in price,the 360's are going to kill themselves out.

Where they even running a 360 as all the tracks around the midwest don't tech the motors..I'm just saying..LOL

Are you serious? I have a great idea, promotors cut the number of 360/358 races in half...I won't miss them!

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410s are fine in PA... but not anywhere else... well ok in ohio... what if the Knoxville Nationals only has 30 cars???

What are you talking about? There are 43 410's at Knoxville tonight.

43 is good... I have just seen out here in CA... races like the Gold Cup go from the 100s to the the 30s.... I agree with Dave Blaney... a sprint car needs to be a sprint car... the 360 / 410 split is hurting the sport in some areas.... I predict the 410 will go the way of the big block... especially if the posse keeps beaten the woo in PA...

Major change is right.... get rid of all the rules that have watered it down to just a hair above the other umpteen deballed spec cookie cutter divisions.

Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

I agree,leave the 305 class alone, but just call all the rest sprint cars.

What if? What if? LOL Reality is the nationals are just fine on car count. The 360's will never take the place of the big engine sprints.

The 360 touters like to talk about the engines lastings longer,but if you look at the real facts a lot of that hype is deceiving. 360's very seldom time in,thats 2 or 3 laps at speed less a race,they run heats that are 2-4 laps less,their mains are usually 5-10 laps less,and they generally race on tracks that are 3/8ths and smaller which is a lot easier on engines than the big 1/2 miles.A 410 is putting dang near another features worth of laps a night on their motors.A 410 puts alot more miles on their engines than a 360 in the same number of races.Dont fall for all the hype.

For the money they race for, 360's won't take the place of 410's. With the competition they get, the 360 Nats. should pay way more than just $10k to win. But with that said there was a good car count at K'Ville tonight and 40+ at Eldora on Fri. Should be around 60 at The Grove next weekend.

I've raced sprint cars,and I wish I was a multi miillionaire so I could put some of these guys in one of these "locked down" cars and let them see just how easy it is.But I'm not a millionaire,so I'm not able to buy all the cars these experts would tear up,and besides I wouldn't want to clean the shit out of the seat of the cars either.305's now have better wings than 410's,which I think was a result of listening to people that don't know what the hell they are talking about.When it's your butt in the car,belive me you would want the best wing and tires available.These drivers making it look easy and make the cars appear to be locked down because they are TALENTED.

Hmmm....more 410 cars and drivers nationwide in 2010 than 2009...more 410 series in 2010 than 2009...2011 appears to be even better. I think your post may be a few years too late. Looks like things are rebounding with 410's thanks to some foresight in several areas...

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The 360 engines are not a solution. If the 410s die out and everybody is running 360s, then the expenses will get out of hand on those too and they will be extinct shortly thereafter.