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Kamshaft
February 10, 2011 at 08:26:49 PM
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This message was edited on February 10, 2011 at 08:29:37 PM by Kamshaft

Volusia Speedway Barberville, Fla. 2-10-2011

All Star Circuit of Champions

Paul McMahan sets it at 12.569 just a tic under 144 mph average speed.


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February 10, 2011 at 08:56:44 PM
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I don't know that track personally, but I'd sure like to hear from the people that do... Is that a true 1/2 mile?


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Johnny Gibson
February 10, 2011 at 09:07:41 PM
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When the track was asphalt the NASCAR Busch series raced there. The results show the track length as ".500". NASCAR is usually pretty specific when it comes to listing track lengths.




Hannity
February 10, 2011 at 09:12:52 PM
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This message was edited on February 10, 2011 at 11:30:01 PM by Hannity
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Posted By: BIGFISH on February 10 2011 at 08:56:44 PM

I don't know that track personally, but I'd sure like to hear from the people that do... Is that a true 1/2 mile?



I measured it via Google Earth.

Per Google Earth, it is .43 miles. Based on the smaller size, the speed would be 123.16. Maybe someone can verify my math.

Still a very fast lap!



Murphy
February 10, 2011 at 10:07:45 PM
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How do you measure things on Google Earth?



nowingsallballs
February 10, 2011 at 10:17:25 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on February 10 2011 at 10:07:45 PM

How do you measure things on Google Earth?



With a Google ruler of course..

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Hannity
February 10, 2011 at 10:57:46 PM
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This message was edited on February 11, 2011 at 12:01:03 AM by Hannity
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Posted By: Kamshaft on February 10 2011 at 08:26:49 PM

Volusia Speedway Barberville, Fla. 2-10-2011

All Star Circuit of Champions

Paul McMahan sets it at 12.569 just a tic under 144 mph average speed.


That's haulin' the mail!



Here are some interesting comparisons. Track lengths were measured using Google Earth's ruler.

  • Bristol Motor Speedway
    • .53 miles @ 13.7??, or 139.27 (average MPH)
    • Can someone supply the actual track record?
  • Belleville High Banks
    • .51 miles @ 14.321, or 128.20 (average MPH)
  • Knoxville Raceway
    • .50 miles @ 14.407, or 124.94 (average MPH)
  • Volousia Raceway Park
    • .43 miles @ 12.569, or 123.16 (average MPH)
  • Eldora Speedway
    • .43 miles @ 12.707, or 121.94 (average MPH)
  • Williams Grove
    • .53 miles @ 16.140, or 118.22 (average MPH)



mbmotorspt
February 10, 2011 at 11:04:48 PM
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Can you get me a measurement of Belleville?



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Hannity
February 10, 2011 at 11:19:38 PM
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This message was edited on February 11, 2011 at 12:01:51 AM by Hannity
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Posted By: mbmotorspt on February 10 2011 at 11:04:48 PM

Can you get me a measurement of Belleville?




Belleville is .51 miles.

BTW, I'm trying to measure the racing groove (the middle of the track).

Mark, I added Belleville to my track list. See post above. The "High Banks" track record was set by your buddy T-Mac!

Does anyone know what the WoO Bristol Motor Speedway track record is?




Kamshaft
February 11, 2011 at 12:32:27 AM
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This message was edited on February 11, 2011 at 12:37:50 AM by Kamshaft

Bristol

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Motor_Speedway (Right Hand Column)

Temporary Dirt Oval
Surface Clay
Length 0.533 mi (0.858 km)
Turns 4
Banking Turns: 22-24°
Straights: 9°
Lap record 0:13.86 (Sammy Swindell, Swindell Motorsports, 2000, World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series)


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Source: http://www.circletrack.com/eventcoverage/ctrp_0010_bristol_motor_speedway/index.html

Pennzoil World of Outlaws driver Sammy Swindell tested at the track and posted a time of 13.60 seconds, a second-and-a-half quicker than Steve Park's Winston Cup track record.




kmart
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February 11, 2011 at 10:04:28 AM
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Posted By: Kamshaft on February 11 2011 at 12:32:27 AM

Bristol

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Motor_Speedway (Right Hand Column)

Temporary Dirt Oval
Surface Clay
Length 0.533 mi (0.858 km)
Turns 4
Banking Turns: 22-24°
Straights: 9°
Lap record 0:13.86 (Sammy Swindell, Swindell Motorsports, 2000, World of Outlaws Sprint Car Series)


-----------------------------------

Source: http://www.circletrack.com/eventcoverage/ctrp_0010_bristol_motor_speedway/index.html

Pennzoil World of Outlaws driver Sammy Swindell tested at the track and posted a time of 13.60 seconds, a second-and-a-half quicker than Steve Park's Winston Cup track record.




I have a really hard time with the High Banks being about the same size as Knoxville.....I know the lights are not very good at Belliville but I cant read the numbers of the cars going down the back straight---the place is huge.



paydirt28
February 11, 2011 at 10:15:17 AM
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Anything less than 2,640 lineal feet measured around the inside of the track, is not a half mile. Knoxville is a true half mile track.


Rogue-9
February 11, 2011 at 01:40:48 PM
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Posted By: Hannity on February 10 2011 at 10:57:46 PM

Here are some interesting comparisons. Track lengths were measured using Google Earth's ruler.

  • Bristol Motor Speedway
    • .53 miles @ 13.7??, or 139.27 (average MPH)
    • Can someone supply the actual track record?
  • Belleville High Banks
    • .51 miles @ 14.321, or 128.20 (average MPH)
  • Knoxville Raceway
    • .50 miles @ 14.407, or 124.94 (average MPH)
  • Volousia Raceway Park
    • .43 miles @ 12.569, or 123.16 (average MPH)
  • Eldora Speedway
    • .43 miles @ 12.707, or 121.94 (average MPH)
  • Williams Grove
    • .53 miles @ 16.140, or 118.22 (average MPH)



I got the same for every track, except Knoxville. There's an area between the inside wall and inside burm that isn't track, and only the dark dirt on the image is track. You might have measred the very inside of the track, as running a normal time trial groove, I got .52 miles.



Rogue-9
February 11, 2011 at 01:44:56 PM
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Posted By: paydirt28 on February 11 2011 at 10:15:17 AM
Anything less than 2,640 lineal feet measured around the inside of the track, is not a half mile. Knoxville is a true half mile track.


That's because it's very round, the straightaways at Knoxville are longer, but at Belleville the track is so circular, that the back-stretch is farther away from the front stretch.



Rogue-9
February 11, 2011 at 01:46:05 PM
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Posted By: Rogue-9 on February 11 2011 at 01:44:56 PM

That's because it's very round, the straightaways at Knoxville are longer, but at Belleville the track is so circular, that the back-stretch is farther away from the front stretch.



whoops I replied to the wrong post.

 




LatshPA
February 11, 2011 at 01:49:21 PM
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I'm great with numbers, but not google earth...can someone check Selinsgrove and Port? Both are notorious for being faster then Williams Grove,and I believe they measure .54 and .51 (based off measurements I've seen).





OutlawDan
February 11, 2011 at 01:54:42 PM
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I know Jason Blonde ran the fastest ever lap at Bristol with a pavement sprinter. Don't know what the time was.



fumanchu
February 11, 2011 at 02:01:04 PM
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Calistoga speedway Mark Kinser 16.057


Perris auato speedway Danny Lasoski 13.875





Hannity
February 11, 2011 at 02:31:10 PM
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This message was edited on February 11, 2011 at 02:32:12 PM by Hannity

I added some tracks to my list, see updates below. Keep in mind, the track lengths were measured via Google Earth's ruler. I tried to measure the "groove", not the inside or outside rail.

  • Bristol Motor Speedway
    • .53 miles @ 13.860, or 137.66 (average MPH)
  • Belleville High Banks
    • .51 miles @ 14.321, or 128.20 (average MPH)
  • Knoxville Raceway
    • .50 miles @ 14.407, or 124.94 (average MPH)
  • Volousia Raceway Park
    • .43 miles @ 12.569, or 123.16 (average MPH)
  • Eldora Speedway
    • .43 miles @ 12.707, or 121.94 (average MPH)
  • Selinsgrove Speedway
    • .54 miles @ 16.207, or 119.95 (average MPH)
  • Williams Grove
    • .53 miles @ 16.140, or 118.22 (average MPH)
  • Perris Auto Speedway
    • .37 miles @ 13.875, or 096.00 (average MPH)

This is an interesting list, especially when you compare the list to all the "folklore", that's out there about these tracks.

For example, when you use real measurements to compare these tracks, the Eldora Speedway doesn't seem so "badass" after all.

The PAS numbers are down right embarrassing. They advertise that track as a "half mile", yet it isn't even a true 3/8.



BIGFISH
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February 11, 2011 at 04:04:48 PM
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Boy I miss Manzy!


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