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plans are a new motor new rearend and a lot of clean-up maybe power coat the chassie

OK what is the history? Where did it race etc.? What part of the country are you in. I may have missed something somewhere. Is it a current vintage racer?

Warren Vincent
Cans 4 Kansas Heroes

Whatever you do, be true to the car and the era it ran in. Base/clear coat, powercoat, chrome, etc. have destroyed alot of racing history. If the car was a show piece in its day, then that is how it should be restored, but alot of cars were raced bucks down, and performance was more important than looks. Being true to the car is often times more expensive and harder, because you are trying to find parts that not just something from a catalog, and will take longer, but the final product will truly show the car as it was instead of some sort of re-creation.

I was walking through the sprint pits when a vintage car rolled through, heading to the track. A true racing legend who was working on one of the sprints looked up as the car drove buy. I heard him say to another mechanic, "Whoever saw a vintage car with hex knock offs?"

A car that is correctly restored, or not restored at all and still has all the bumps, bruises and warts from the day it last rolled off the track, will draw alot more attention than a car that has been over restored.

Amen to that! Anybody out there that is restoring a car should re-read rustyrails previous post. It's about time to put some commen sense back into our sport.

The first time that i saw the outlaw sprint cars, man was I surprised. Our supers were very good looking cars with fancy paint jobs, chrome and everything else to make them look good. This was before the big money sponsors came into the program and these guys raced for living. If it was not needed to help the car go faster it wasn't on the cars. The Karl Kinser car was very plain, no chrome on the nerf bars or bumpers and simple white paint job but man it was fast. That was the first time that I saw a slider coupling instead of an in/out box. It was made by Karl, the handle to pull the coupling in/out was an all thread bolt with a 3 inch bolt welded on to make a T handle but it worked. This all changed with the big money sponsors and I am not sure it was for the best, dirt track racing has been dying ever since

Ray

This is an old Wichita Falls Texas car.

Most of you guys don't know this car, but BHMS is the nephew of the driver from those days. Grandson maybe, not sure. This is the only running car of this type I know of. There is another early 60's cutdown coupe in the Falls, but it isn't running.

Last year he came over from Amarillo and ran with us. after talking to him and his kin-- I'd say he is policed enough as to what to do with the car.

NO crome on this car going back the way it was ran ( except the stainless steal drill stem bumpers) black and white chassie probley wont paint the body till mutch later the motor Iam building orignal 301 that was in the car having fun finding all of those parts. having to move the stearing back to the center. looking for the orignal airplaine seat it had

This car was built and raced in Witchta Falls Texas in the early 60s. Owner and driver was James Allen this car has been in Amarillo since 81. I did race it in Witchta Falls last year first time on the track in 42 Years had lots of fun got the vintage racing Bug it has been and still is in my family since it was built (James was my mothers uncle)

You have the same challenges I had with my dad's old coupe. I cheated, I got rid of the "Gerry Can" gas tank and went with a WWII oxygen tank, 9 gallons, stainless, like new on the inside.

I also used 1950 Ford trunk hinges to replace the barndoor hinges on the hood. Now I'm tinkering with the idea of putting a B-17 bomber seat in.

Not exactly like it was, but the car lives and is in the dry right now. After years and years of abuse, the car has some pride put back into it.

Just wanted to share this with yall this is a picture I found of 34 in 1985 or so I was 12 it was 2 or 3 years after the car came to Amarillo just to show you what kind of shape the car was in when we got it. Jiggs might remember this it was in a car show in Borger Texas the poster under the car was the one we gave him. It was a Speed Bowl poster

Not mutch left now lots of wore out parts dont know how it stayed together in Wichita Falls last year!!!!

I did some research on this car and have some information, In 1964 I think it was first built since during that time Lawton and Wichita Falls car were still running the old coupes and they started to start cutting down some bodies like the #34 car. In 1964 from one of my Wichita Speedway programs #34 is listed and the driver was Johnny Dollar and sponsored by Payne & Allen Construction Co. In 1965 the drivers were listed as Johnny Dollar and Freddie Brown, sponsored by Payne & Allen Construction Co. The owner from 1964-1965 was listed as Jim Allen. Does this help? I like the old #34 and did see it run at Texhoma Speedway last year.

Mike

You've been showing off that old super for a while!

My wifes grandfather was one of the original sponsers of this car his name was C.O Payne.

David