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StanM
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February 20, 2010 at 05:21:00 PM
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With an eye toward the future, the Upper Midwest Sprint Car Series (UMSS) is excited to announce the formation of a new series that will be known as the Micro Sprint League of the UMSS, which will enable potential open wheel racers to get involved in racing at a very affordable price.

Known as "small sprint cars," micro sprint ars are based on a 60 inch wheel base, use a 600 cc motorcycle engine, and weights about 750 pounds. These open wheel cars race with or without wings and can reach speeds up to 100 mph. Micro sprints can be purchased used starting around $3,000 and up, or new for about $15,000.

"These are real race cars," exclaimed Ron Bernhagen of the UMSS. "We are going to develop this program wih the same value-based philosophy as the UMSS, which is to bring open-wheel racing back to the Twin Cities area by establishing reasonable rules for the participant, an economical purse structure for the race tracks, and an affordable race ticket and fan-friendly program for the race fan."

The Micro Sprint League of the UMSS will have a presence on the UMSS website with its own page that will have all the necessary information. Look for this addition within the next month.

The 2010 schedule will be announced soon and will include races at Elko Speedway, Kopellah Speedway and Copper Creek Motorsports Park in Superior, Wisconsin.

For more information, please contact Ron Bernhagen at 612-363-5302 or John Morris at 763-923-1031.


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February 21, 2010 at 01:28:24 PM
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Posted By: StanM on February 20 2010 at 05:21:00 PM

With an eye toward the future, the Upper Midwest Sprint Car Series (UMSS) is excited to announce the formation of a new series that will be known as the Micro Sprint League of the UMSS, which will enable potential open wheel racers to get involved in racing at a very affordable price.

Known as "small sprint cars," micro sprint ars are based on a 60 inch wheel base, use a 600 cc motorcycle engine, and weights about 750 pounds. These open wheel cars race with or without wings and can reach speeds up to 100 mph. Micro sprints can be purchased used starting around $3,000 and up, or new for about $15,000.

"These are real race cars," exclaimed Ron Bernhagen of the UMSS. "We are going to develop this program wih the same value-based philosophy as the UMSS, which is to bring open-wheel racing back to the Twin Cities area by establishing reasonable rules for the participant, an economical purse structure for the race tracks, and an affordable race ticket and fan-friendly program for the race fan."

The Micro Sprint League of the UMSS will have a presence on the UMSS website with its own page that will have all the necessary information. Look for this addition within the next month.

The 2010 schedule will be announced soon and will include races at Elko Speedway, Kopellah Speedway and Copper Creek Motorsports Park in Superior, Wisconsin.

For more information, please contact Ron Bernhagen at 612-363-5302 or John Morris at 763-923-1031.



Will these be Up-right Chassis, Sidewinders or glorified cage carts?



StanM
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February 21, 2010 at 06:27:39 PM
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Posted By: sprntr on February 21 2010 at 01:28:24 PM

Will these be Up-right Chassis, Sidewinders or glorified cage carts?



The way I understand it they're not caged karts, they're the mini sprint upright chassis cars with 600cc motorcycle engines. Basically they're close to the size of a midget if you can picture the ones I'm talking about. That's my understanding.


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February 21, 2010 at 06:31:09 PM
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Posted By: StanM on February 20 2010 at 05:21:00 PM

With an eye toward the future, the Upper Midwest Sprint Car Series (UMSS) is excited to announce the formation of a new series that will be known as the Micro Sprint League of the UMSS, which will enable potential open wheel racers to get involved in racing at a very affordable price.

Known as "small sprint cars," micro sprint ars are based on a 60 inch wheel base, use a 600 cc motorcycle engine, and weights about 750 pounds. These open wheel cars race with or without wings and can reach speeds up to 100 mph. Micro sprints can be purchased used starting around $3,000 and up, or new for about $15,000.

"These are real race cars," exclaimed Ron Bernhagen of the UMSS. "We are going to develop this program wih the same value-based philosophy as the UMSS, which is to bring open-wheel racing back to the Twin Cities area by establishing reasonable rules for the participant, an economical purse structure for the race tracks, and an affordable race ticket and fan-friendly program for the race fan."

The Micro Sprint League of the UMSS will have a presence on the UMSS website with its own page that will have all the necessary information. Look for this addition within the next month.

The 2010 schedule will be announced soon and will include races at Elko Speedway, Kopellah Speedway and Copper Creek Motorsports Park in Superior, Wisconsin.

For more information, please contact Ron Bernhagen at 612-363-5302 or John Morris at 763-923-1031.



Glad to see more micro sprint racing. The miniakota micro sprint group will be racing every other week at nobles county speedway in Worthinton, MN www.miniakotamicrosprints.com

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Posted By: StanM on February 21 2010 at 06:27:39 PM

The way I understand it they're not caged karts, they're the mini sprint upright chassis cars with 600cc motorcycle engines. Basically they're close to the size of a midget if you can picture the ones I'm talking about. That's my understanding.



Micro sprints (usually 600cc's) are smaller than mini sprints and the driver's legs extend forward, kinda like a go-cart. Mini sprints (usually 750cc's or 1200cc's, sometimes 600cc's) are very very similar to a midget and feature an upright sitting position.

I like the idea of using a micro/mini sprint as a "feeder". Micro/mini sprints are real race cars. They are purpose built and every piece on them is designed to go racing. This seems like a better alternative than the "bomber" class.



StanM
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February 22, 2010 at 05:32:33 PM
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Posted By: Hannity on February 22 2010 at 04:48:29 PM

Micro sprints (usually 600cc's) are smaller than mini sprints and the driver's legs extend forward, kinda like a go-cart. Mini sprints (usually 750cc's or 1200cc's, sometimes 600cc's) are very very similar to a midget and feature an upright sitting position.

I like the idea of using a micro/mini sprint as a "feeder". Micro/mini sprints are real race cars. They are purpose built and every piece on them is designed to go racing. This seems like a better alternative than the "bomber" class.



I've never seen one but when I searched 600cc micro sprint on youtube they looked like small upright Sprint Cars. Ron said they're not the caged karts like they ran in the Sandbox with the Midgets. I'm just going by what people are telling me but I won't know for sure until the third week of April.


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This message was edited on February 22, 2010 at 08:25:05 PM by schuurmotorsports
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Posted By: StanM on February 22 2010 at 05:32:33 PM

I've never seen one but when I searched 600cc micro sprint on youtube they looked like small upright Sprint Cars. Ron said they're not the caged karts like they ran in the Sandbox with the Midgets. I'm just going by what people are telling me but I won't know for sure until the third week of April.





StanM
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February 23, 2010 at 05:15:21 PM
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Here's a photo of a Micro as posted on the Hosehead's forums photo page. Don't know if this is a 600cc or?


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Posted By: StanM on February 23 2010 at 05:15:21 PM

Here's a photo of a Micro as posted on the Hosehead's forums photo page. Don't know if this is a 600cc or?



Nice pic Stan! This is most likely a 600. Note the steering wheel position!?! This is an example of a micro sprint. The drivers legs extend forward, like a gocart. The engine is offset to the left; the offset creates forward space for the drivers legs; sometimes called a "sidewinder".

When sitting in an upright mini sprint, the drivers feet do not extend beyond the firewall, like a sprint or midget. The steering wheel on a mini sprint is relatively flat.




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This message was edited on February 24, 2010 at 06:44:59 AM by zweber

here is a link to more micro photos. they are real racy, great sound from the 4 stroke motor and electric start. i believe there were 585 entered this year at the tulsa shootout and they put on a show similar to the chili bowl. kopellah should work well but elko might be kinda big. hope we see lots of them this year! http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=micro+sprint&oq=&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=bxqFS_WFA5L2Nf-myTQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQsAQwAA



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Posted By: StanM on February 23 2010 at 05:15:21 PM

Here's a photo of a Micro as posted on the Hosehead's forums photo page. Don't know if this is a 600cc or?



thanks I was trying to put this pic on, this is actually the car I just bought jordan Nordstrom, sharp paint scheme unfortunately it will look completely different next year. it's a 600cc honda engine. the miniakota micro sprint group runs an outlaw 600 cc class which basically means you can do whatever you want to the engine, porting/raising compression as long as it came no more than a 636 cc stock from the factory. hopefully umss rules will be similar so cars can run both series

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one more side note these are pretty fast little racers, don't know the size of tracks they will be running on in the umss series but they prefer to run on the smaller tracks down here 3/8th's or usually smaller and they'll turn comparable or faster lap times than the a-mods


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February 24, 2010 at 10:26:32 PM
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Nice car! Kopellah will be a good track (when smooth, which was most of the time in the latter part of season last year). 1/4 mile.

I would love to give one of thes ea try one night if any generous soul would offer. Like a midget, the limited HP compared to a 360 sprint presents a challenge in keeping the car controlled by fast-loose.

will be great to have this group joined up with UMSS. Looking forward to more open wheel racing!

Jimmy.




StanM
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February 25, 2010 at 05:11:02 PM
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Posted By: JimmyK on February 24 2010 at 10:26:32 PM

Nice car! Kopellah will be a good track (when smooth, which was most of the time in the latter part of season last year). 1/4 mile.

I would love to give one of thes ea try one night if any generous soul would offer. Like a midget, the limited HP compared to a 360 sprint presents a challenge in keeping the car controlled by fast-loose.

will be great to have this group joined up with UMSS. Looking forward to more open wheel racing!

Jimmy.




I have a hunch that these cars are really going to catch on and be a great compliment to the UMSS. According to the press release they're relatively affordable when compared to other classes that race around here so I see them becoming a popular addition.


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February 27, 2010 at 09:07:18 PM
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Looks like this class has some high payout races. A couple I have seen were $7,500 to win in WA. & $2,500 to win in CO.

There is a website somewhat like Hosehead's that is dedicated to Mini/Micro Sprints



I copied this from a mini sprint website...

 

What does it cost?

Mini-sprint racing holds the distinction of being one of the most affordable forms of open wheel racing in existence today. This includes not only initial startup costs, but also weekly operating expenses. Getting started The first expenses you will incur include the purchase of your car, engine, and safety equipment. Following are estimate costs of getting started:

Used Car $4,000 - $10,000 New Car $8,000 - $15,000
Engine $1,500 - $4,000 Helmet $150 - $600
Drivers Suit $100 - $1,200 Gloves $29 - $79
Shoes $69 - $129 Trailer $500 - $6,500
       

Weekly operating expenses (approximate)

Pit passes$20 - $30 per personRacing fuel$20 - $30

 

Periodic expenses

Front tires$110 each (generally last 1 or 2 seasons)

Rear tires$125 each (generally replaced 2 or 3 times per season)

Engine rebuild$500 - $1000(once at the end of each season)

 

What does it pay?

Although you won't get rich racing mini-sprints, generally the purses pay well enough to help cover expenses.Most feature races pay $150 to $250 to win and $50 for starting.There are also mini-sprint national races that pay $500 to $1500 to win and $50 to $150 for starting.

 


Mike "Pencil" Priefer


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March 13, 2010 at 07:55:52 AM
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micro nationals this weekend in little rock. lots of cars... http://www.racinboys.com/home/article_view/article/f_12713



zweber
March 14, 2010 at 05:21:53 AM
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pretty good video to check out.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4_Y...feature=related





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