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https://racingnews.co/2020/11/28/logan-misuraca-tests-nascar-truck/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Gravel is getting too old they want 20 year olds and they want to get females involved to increase female fan base even if they suck. Not saying she sucks never seen or heard of her, but look at Danica patrick the rides she got. She SUUUUCKSSSS!!

You just now figuring out that succeeding in NASCAR is not 100% based on talent?

It's simple.  Bring the money, and you can get a ride.  That is not to imply that this young lady does not have talent (never heard of her to be honest, so I have no idea), but it is obvious that with any top racing series...INCLUDING the World of Outlaws and All Stars...that if you bring the sponsor then someone will give you a ride.  I read some tweets from when David Gravel was announced for the Quiring #2 for 2021, and someone asked him about Truck rides for next year.  His response was basically that he didn't have the money for it.  So as they say...don't hate the player, hate the game.

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Go easy on the young lady.  The article says "Additionally, she made some dirt track starts with a midget machine" so it's obvious that she knows something. 

Driving in NASCAR requires a unique blend of driving skills and marketability and being able to say the right things to fans, media and sponsors.  Gravel has the driving skills and does fine with the marketability part but he's going to turn 29 next June.  NASCAR demands 18 year old developmental drivers and they're considered over the hill by the time they hit 30.  I think that door has closed for David Gravel at 29 on account of Covid throwing everything out of whack when he was trying to break into the trucks.  He didn't have any experience on the tracks he raced and they weren't able to practice or test so he was already behind the eight ball before he strapped in.  Now he will probably stay on the dirt and focus all of his attention on competing for a championship. 

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I went on her website and it looks like she has experience racing quarter midgets, legend cars, and pro late models. Also said that she crew chiefed for her dad who is a 360 sprint car driver as well to learn more on the mechanical side of things. Don't know too much about 360 racing down in that region but at least she it appears she has been around the sport her entire life which is a plus. I always withhold judgement until I see what the driver can do on the track. There are some out there though that seem to see a cute young girl racing and automatically think Danica/Natalie Decker/Publicity stunt/rich kid. Apparently its not possible for a girl to be both talented & attracitve.

Exactly

NASCAR has little to do with actual racing anymore. It’s all about branding and marketing. Let's hope sprint cars don't fall farther into that than already exists.  You can't fault someone for the circumstances they're born into.  It's a separate thing on how they act in regards to that situation. 

The racing sucks, the drivers buy their rides and frequently have no personalities, I wonder why NASCAR is having so many issues with attendance and ratings? 

+1000

You bring money to the table it helps in all forms of racing not just nascar and it has been that way for awhile! To say that Danica sucked is definitely not an accurate statement!  

You guys do realize that NASCAR is basically just a reality TV show?

Thank you for saying what I was thinking.  Talent will get you there if it's Gordon, Stewart, Bell, or Larson talent----extraordinary talent.  But, if it's just "really good talent" vs. "good talent and $$$", really good talent will lose the battle.  Has been that way for 50 years.  

The real issue is that "no talent and $$$" can and does win.

It's really become IndyCar 2.0 and if not for the extremely loyal fans down south, they'd be in really bad shape. 

Those loyal fans down south are going away to. Nascrap is to the point of having drivers that don't want to get there drivers suits dirty. Those good old days are long gone. You have 3 owners in nascrap that control everything, Hendricks, Penske and Gibbs.  Roush, Ganassi and Childress are running for 5th to 10th place. TSR attempts to run with the big 3 but even they struggle to get wins. As for Gravel he had Gordon helping him get a seat in a truck, he got first hand knowledge of how that deal works and as he said, unless a ride falls from the sky, I'm not holding my breath to get another chance. He walks away from the 41 because they want to race and be on the platinum deal because you have to be there for those incentives.  Macedo may have brought some funds with him to that ride which will make them contenders right out of the box. So, can the 2 car survive on tour without the xtra cash Macedo brought in ? Gravels not bringing it.

The 2 car that macedo was in was kyle larsons team. That team has shut down. The 2 car that gravel is going to is owned by tod quiring he owns a few big businesses I think. funding is not an issue there

My mistake, I thought he was the primary owner of the 2 car last year

I see what you're saying, but "no talent" is a little harsh.  If you mean no God-given talent, I could probably get on board with some of them not having any natural talent.  But, most of the drivers you see coming into Indy and Nascar, whether they have any unbelievable natural ability or not, have been put in race cars since they were able to walk.  They have been groomed and by the time they hit the big stage, they have "manufactured-good talent" and money behind them.  Very few drivers in this world will get there anymore with pure undeniable talent.  Wealthy owners who can spot that can hit the jackpot----as long as they have the money to throw out the door to make the car competitive.  There is no doubt as a business man, it would be tough to choose Kyle Larson over someone like Paul Menard who always brought a sponsor along with him.  As a car owner who wants nothing more than to win at any cost, I could never choose someone like Paul Menard over Larson.  

Stewart-Haas Racing had a heck of a year, leading the series with 9 wins by Harvick.  Wonder how the old season championship would have played out this year

No experience on the tracks he raced, no practice, no testing - sounds like Kinser and Berstein all over again.