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KNOXVILLE RACEWAY, Knoxville, IA
August 2, 2018

360 Results

Time Trials (Qualifying Order), 2 laps: 1. 14, Tony Stewart, Columbus, IN (4), 16.316; 2. 27, Greg Hodnett, Spring Grove, PA (2), 16.380; 3. 21, Brian Brown, Grain Valley, MO (18), 16.489; 4. 53, Joe Beaver, Knoxville, IA (10), 16.507; 5. 18, Ryan Roberts, Aurora, NE (1), 16.587; 6. 7W, Tasker Phillips, Pleasantville, IA (6), 16.598; 7. 83, Cory Eliason, Selma, CA (3), 16.610; 8. 70, Calvin Landis, Knoxville, IA (5), 16.623; 9. 5J, Jamie Ball, Knoxville, IA (7), 16.629; 10. 28, Scott Bogucki, McLaren Vale, SA, Aust. (17), 16.644; 11. 23D, Devon Dobie, Wapakoneta, OH (12), 16.645; 12. 41S, Dominic Scelzi, Fresno, CA (26), 16.682; 13. 21K, Thomas Kennedy, Winnipeg, MB, Can. (43), 16.687; 14. 33M, Mason Daniel, Springville, CA (15), 16.707; 15. 7C, John Carney II, El Paso, TX (25), 16.718; 16. 17WX, Shane Golobic, Fremont, CA (30), 16.743; 17. 3S, Sammy Swindell, Germantown, TN (27), 16.753; 18. 99, Skylar Gee, Leduc, ALB, Can. (14), 16.757; 19. 7M, Chance Morton, Coweta, OK (11), 16.769; 20. 09, Matt Juhl, Tea, SD (9), 16.777; 21. 4J, Lee Grosz, Harwood, ND (42), 16.792; 22. 9, Ryan Giles, Grimes, IA (24), 16.803; 23. 76, Brad Comegys, Bondurant, IA (8), 16.826; 24. 28C, Jonathan Cornell, Sedalia, MO (22), 16.859; 25. 15H, Sam Hafertepe Jr., Sunnyvale, TX (41), 16.871; 26. 55, McKenna Haase, Des Moines, IA (36), 16.888; 27. 4, Jon Agan, Knoxville, IA (38), 16.904; 28. 13V, Seth Brahmer, Wisner, NE (35), 16.905; 29. 24N, Nathan Mills, Bondurant, IA (29), 16.944; 30. 02, Don Droud Jr., Lincoln, NE (16), 16.968; 31. 22H, Randy Hannagan, Pittsboro, IN (21), 16.979; 32. 15, Christian Bowman, Altoona, IA (33), 16.998; 33. 29, Willie Croft, Roseville, CA (39), 17.006; 34. 35L, Cody Ledger, Omaha, NE (31), 17.049; 35. 75, Tyler Blank, California, MO (32), 17.093; 36. 2X, Tucker Doughty, Sunnyvale, TX (23), 17.234; 37. 3P, Sawyer Phillips, Pleasantville, IA (37), 17.316; 38. 98, Chris Masters, Napa, CA (34), 17.357; 39. 22M, Shawn Murray, Jacksonville, FL (19), 17.598; 40. 57, Billy Butler, Sacramento, CA (40), 17.679; 41. 2K, Kevin Ingle, Huron, SD (20), 17.738; 42. 57B, Bobby Butler, Sacramento, CA (28), 18.102; 43. DQ (Illegal Tire) - 17X, Josh Baughman, Odessa, TX (13)
 
Heat one (started), 8 Laps, 2:16.0: 1. McKenna Haase (1); 2. Shane Golobic (3); 3. Lee Grosz (2); 4. Tasker Phillips (5) / 5. Randy Hannagan (7); 6. Devon Dobie (4); 7. Tony Stewart (6); 8. Tucker Doughty (8); 9. Kevin Ingle (9) 

Heat two (started), 8 Laps, 2:17.9: 1. Ryan Giles (2); 2. Sammy Swindell (3); 3. Greg Hodnett (6); 4. Jon Agan (1) / 5. Dominic Scelzi (4); 6. Cory Eliason (5); 7. Sawyer Phillips (8); 8. Christian Bowman (7); 9. Bobby Butler (9) 

Heat three (started), 8 Laps, 2:17.0: 1. Seth Brahmer (1); 2. Thomas Kennedy (4); 3. Brian Brown (6); 4. Skylar Gee (3) / 5. Brad Comegys (2); 6. Calvin Landis (5); 7. Chris Masters (8); 8. Willie Croft (7); DNS - 9. Josh Baughman (9) 

Heat four (started), 8 Laps, NT: 1. Jonathan Cornell (2); 2. Jamie Ball (5); 3. Mason Daniel (4); 4. Joe Beaver (6) / 5. Cody Ledger (7); 6. Shawn Murray (8); 7. Chance Morton (3); 8. Nathan Mills (1) 

Heat five (started), 8 Laps, 2:19.3: 1. Sam Hafertepe Jr. (2); 2. John Carney II (4); 3. Scott Bogucki (5); 4. Matt Juhl (3); 5. Don Droud Jr. (1); 6. Ryan Roberts (6); 7. Tyler Blank (7); 8. Billy Butler (8)
 
B main (started), 12 Laps, NT: 1. Tony Stewart (1); 2. Dominic Scelzi (6); 3. Cory Eliason (3); 4. Randy Hannagan (9) / 5. Sawyer Phillips (16); 6. Ryan Roberts (2); 7. Devon Dobie (5); 8. Don Droud Jr. (10); 9. Tyler Blank (14); 10. Brad Comegys (8); 11. Cody Ledger (11); 12. Christian Bowman (12); 13. Billy Butler (17); 14. Chris Masters (15); 15. Tucker Doughty (13); 16. Kevin Ingle (19); 17. Bobby Butler (21); 18. Shawn Murray (18); 19. Calvin Landis (4); 20. Nathan Mills (7); 21. Willie Croft (20); DNS - 22. Chance Morton; 23. Josh Baughman 

A main (started), 20 Laps, NT: 1. Thomas Kennedy (2); 2. Sammy Swindell (11); 3. Mason Daniel (1); 4. Brian Brown (7); 5. Ryan Giles (15); 6. Greg Hodnett (8); 7. Dominic Scelzi (22); 8. Jamie Ball (4); 9. Shane Golobic (10); 10. Cory Eliason (23); 11. Scott Bogucki (3); 12. Matt Juhl (13); 13. John Carney II (9); 14. Joe Beaver (6); 15. Lee Grosz (14); 16. Skylar Gee (12); 17. McKenna Haase (18); 18. Randy Hannagan (24); 19. Sam Hafertepe Jr. (17); 20. Tony Stewart (21); 21. Seth Brahmer (20); 22. Jonathan Cornell (16); 23. Jon Agan (19); 24. Tasker Phillips (5). Lap Leader: Kennedy 1-20. Hard-charger: D. Scelzi.

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McKenna Haase won her heat and started the A main in 18th spot. Kennedy was 2nd in his heat and started outside pole. Could someone please explain how this event stages the starters? Thank you.

And I see that winning the 360 nationals pays $15000. That doesnt seem like a lot of money compared to the 410s. Do the 360 just race for that much less night in and night out? Thats only 10% of the 410 payout for first and overall payout.

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

Yep, 360s get screwed. Smaller purse is in no way proportional to expenses

Knoxville Nationals has its own format, you can find it on their webpage if you keep looking. I have to look it up every year.....

The 360's get about 10% of the crowd that the 410 do as well.  The 360's draw in a lot less than the 410's. Admission price is lower, sponsor contributions are lower, attendance is lower. Stands to reason their purse will be alot lower also. They still pay out over 100k. 

Feature line ups are based on time trials. Then they invert 6 for the heat races, so it is not uncommon for heat race winners to start towards the back of the feature. Then Saturdays mains are based on the point system. 

http://www.knoxvilleraceway.com/Event/knoxville-360-nationals

Its a points system, qualifying counts more than heats (200 for quick time, 100 for heat winner) Haase times 26th best & Kennedy was 13th. This doesn't give a good explanation of how they line up the A,  might be straight up by points, I'm not sure: https://www.knoxvilleraceway.com/Event/knoxville-360-nationals

Thanks.... beat me to it while I was typing. So A is lined straight up by time trials?.... i wasn't sure

On second thought, I'm not so sure you're right. Hodnett qualified 2nd fastest & started 8th in the A. 3rd in his heat....I'm thinking its lined up by points

Incorrect - it follows the same format as the 410 Nationals with exception of the preliminary night heat invert (6 in 360s vs 8 for 410s).

Cars time and receive points decreasing by 2 for their spot (ie: fastest gets 200, second 198, third 196 and down.)

Cars are then inverted by 6 (ie: 30th starts pole of 5th heat, 29th pole of 4th, etc.) and heats are raced taking top 4 to feature regardless of points. However, points are given with 100 to the winner, decreasing by 3 (100, 97, 94, etc.).

Out of the heat qualifiers (20 cars, 5 heats, top 4 in each), the points are tallied and the top 8 are inverted so high point man starts 8th and 8th in points starts on the pole.

For example, tonight, Nate Van Haaften qualified quick (200 pts), finished 3rd in his heat (94 pts) for a total of 294, making him high point man and started 8th in the feature due to the invert.Joey Saldana qualified second quick (198 pts), finished 4th in his heat (91 pts) for a total of 289, making him second high point man and started 7th in the feature.

Cole Duncan qualified 14th (174 points), finished fourth in his heat (91 points) and scored 265 points, which tonight was good for 8th for A qualified drivers, putting him on the pole.

A Feature is awarded same point system as qualifying (200, 198, 196, and down) to give a final score for qualifying night. Final scores for qualifying night set up Saturday night's A main straight up (highest total points on qualifying night has pole).

This year that would be Saldana. In addition to his 289 garnered through qualifying/heat race action, he finished 2nd in the A for 198 more points. That would be a score of 487 and was highest of any qualifier Thursday or Friday.

Hopefully this explains. There is a little modification for the 410s with Hard Knox Friday night, but the 360s do not do that.

I've always felt that point system puts too much emphasis on qualifying.... guaranteed there will be Knoxville loyalists that disagree with me...

Macedo & Kennedy win the A on qualifying nights & start 7th & 8th Saturday? Swindell finishes 2nd & starts 11th?  nah....

Qualifying nite winners should be on the front row, IMHO....

The ultra catch 22 is that it's likely neither Macedo or Kennedy win if they aren't inverted already. It's a dangerous argument here.

I will absolutely defend that the Nationals system is the perfect system for any kind of racing event. I sound like a broken record every year, but you are incentivized to race as hard as you can every time you are on the track. There is no gaming this system (looking at you, King's Royal). 

It consistently puts the best drivers and cars in the top of Saturday's A Main, so it's doing its job. 

100% correct! The cream will rise to the top!

Well think about this.....Macedo and Kennedy because of the invert on qualifying nights, both started in the front row of their features on qualifying night. And now because of that good fortune you think they should be starting up front again? No way! They should have to earn this win. And Sammy was unfortunate in that his qualifying position was poor, but Kennedy came out even later and put down a better time. As it was, Sammy was only about .43 off quick time. His heat invert and his remarkable run in the feature garnered him the points needed to get him where he is. The points system works. Tell Tony Stewart that qualifying puts too much emphasis on this deal.

Where can you find this info? I recall seeing a detailed explanation of format somewhere, but can't find it now....

"Format" section under both 360 & 410 nationals page doesn't explain how they line up the A main on qualifying nites....

We rehash this argument every year at this time, don't we?

Specifically, where does it say about the inversion of 8 in the qualifing nite A Mains?

So Hodnett was high point man Thursday?

Not trying to argue, just curious

I don't know that it is stated anywhere, but it's how it's been done at the Nationals for quite some time.

Hodnett was high point man before the A Thursday by virtue of qualifying 2nd (198 points) and finishing third in his heat (94 points) for a total of 292 points. Brown was second high point man pre-A with a score of 290 (196 qualifying third, 94 finishing third in his heat).

However, Brown finished fourth in the A for another 194 points to bring his total to 484, while Hodnett finished sixth to gain another 190 points, so his total was only 482. Thus Brown lines up outside second row tonight, while Hodnett is inside row 3. 

You'll see the same format next week, and it makes for the best racing of the year on qualifying nights. The invert puts fastest cars back four rows and the track is typically wide enough for them to make a decent charge forward in 10 laps. I don't see how anyone could argue against this system - the only minor downfall is the importance of pill, but several guys in the 360s this week have already shown a bad pill can be overcame. 

http://www.knoxvilleraceway.com/Event/knoxville-360-nationals

fixed it for ya

Ascot was the greatest of all time..

West Capital wasn't half bad either..

Life is good...

Going in to the A main on his qualifying night, yes, he was number one qualifier......second quick time overall and third in his heat. At the end of the night he was second in points to Brown.......Saldana of course ended up high points overall from Friday night. And by the way you thumped your chest when you shouldn't have on a different post......and we missed it......Hodnett didn't beat Brown.....

I plead temporary insanity....

Actually, points on qualifying night have nothing to do with the qualifying night's lineups. Those points only serve to line up the fields for Saturday night. The top (4) in each heat race (20 cars) qualify for the A main on their respective qualifying night. Then we line up those (20) cars by their respective time trial, not points, and then the top (8) are inverted with 9th on back lined up straight up by their time trial. The B main is cars that finished 5th thru 8th in their heats lined straight up by their time trial and so on. Hope this helps...z