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Tuesdays with TMAC – Thoughts on 'The Meeting'!

(Bill W) October 2, 2007 – Bad luck and some mechanical problems followed sprint car driver, Terry McCarl, in his eastern trip with the World of Outlaws last week. This weekend offers an opportunity to bounce back in a venue not too far from home. The WoO will tackle Princeton Speedway's banked ¼ mile just north of Minnesota's Twin Cities.

 

The event offers TMAC a chance to race in front of the people who make it possible. "It's always nice to be not too far away from home," he relates. "It's not far from our sponsors, it's in Big Game (Treestands) and Bosma Poultry's backyard so it's good when they get to see us compete."

The bullring has offered up some exciting action in the past. The WoO made its debut at the facility in 2005, and TMAC has finished in the top ten three out of the four races run there. "There's always a great crowd, and it's a quarter mile, so it's definitely exciting for a sprint car fan to watch," he says. "Sprint car racing on a bullring can be electric!"

The promoter in TMAC can't resist the opportunity for sales either. "It will give the folks in the upper Midwest one last chance to see the World of Outlaws. We're working on the Terry McCarl nit hats to offer people in keeping their heads warm if it's cold!"

OrangeCounty Chopped

Early on at the Orange County Fair Speedway on Wednesday in Middletown, New York, TMAC didn't know what to think of the 5/8 mile track. "It was really greasy in hot laps, and we didn't get a good feel for the track," he says. "I was there in 1992, but couldn't remember it much. We went out to qualify, and we did a great job in getting second quick."

After running fourth in the heat race, TMAC readied for the dash. "It was a great track and our car was good. We went into the dash and (Jac) Haudenschild and I think (Chad) Kemenah got down in the grease on the inside of the track. We had a great run behind Daryn Pittman who started right in front of us. When I entered turn one, I was outside of Kemenah and I had a head of steam going on. We were going to drive by him for fourth, so it was going to be a good start. Unfortunately, Haud got loose in turn two and drove right into me. He hit the left front wheel pretty hard and we got into the fence a bit, but kept going."

After limping to ninth in the dash, TMAC brought the car back for the crew to take a look at. "It bent the left front wheel, so we changed that and checked everything out," he says. "We went out for the feature, and I hit the brakes to wait for a push truck, when something felt funny in the left front. At that point, there wasn't a whole lot we could do, so we started the race. When we started, the left front wasn't right…we actually broke a wheel bearing in that contact in the dash; I've never had that happen before. We use really good bearings, and when we spun them in the pits they seemed fine without a load on them. Anyway, we dropped back to about 17th before the caution came out before the bearings just totally came apart and locked up." The DNF was a disappointment as the car was fast.

Grove Open

The trip to Williams Grove Speedway was overall an exercise in futility. The last trip to the track had given some hope, after two hard charging performances. "We had qualified bad there earlier this year, but came back with a hard-charger at the end of the night," says TMAC. "This time out, we were just way off on the car. We were never comfortable." That was common for the WoO and the local cars alike. Local favorite and multi-time track champion, Fred Rahmer, even ended up in the D main.

Friday's race ended in the C main. "We had a bit of a test motor for Don Ott on Friday night," relates TMAC. "The motor was running fine, but the car wasn't rolling the corner very good. We just never got a handle on the car, and that happens sometimes at Williams Grove."

After registering the 43rd quick time of the night on Saturday, TMAC would be using his last provisional to start the $50,000 to win event. "In the C main on Saturday night, we made some wholesale changes and it felt a lot better," he says. "We started 27th (in the feature) and moved up quite a bit. Obviously, there were some crashes in there too. I felt more comfortable than I had felt the whole weekend. We got up to 13th, trying to battle by Jason Meyers, and my rear end broke. That's kind of the way the year has went for me." The official finish after another DNF was 18th.

The Meeting

The 2008 WoO season was the focus, as officials from DIRT, Inc. met with its World of Outlaws sprint car drivers in Pennsylvania last weekend. The highlights centered on driver t-shirt trailers, outlawing 'cockpit adjustable' devices and a rescinding of the wing rule previously announced by the organization.

The news of the t-shirt trailers hit all drivers hard, including TMAC. "The fans need to know that the WoO is looking to get rid of our t-shirt trailers," he laments. "I think the fans and the promoters love the t-shirt trailers. They can come and talk to Dana Kinser, Shannon Saldana, Donny's mother and all the other family members. What other venue can you go to where you can do that? Can you imagine going down and buying a t-shirt from Jeff Gordon's wife?"

The apparel sales have become essential in keeping teams on the road with the WoO. "On every level, we all appreciate the money we can make on those trailers," says TMAC. "Whether it be $100,000 or $100 a night, that's what keeps us going down the road some nights. I know there are times over the years, where Terry McCarl needed that to put gas in the tank. Steve Kinser has worked hard to be Steve Kinser, and Donny Schatz's mother Diane, is the hardest working person in show business, I guarantee you! The Schatz trailer has many different items in all price ranges. There are fans who can't afford a shirt, but they can find something else for a souvenir in a lot of our trailers. I can only imagine what the 15 and 11 teams are thinking about this after spending so much time building that image and product."

DIRT's reason for this centers around the fact that they feel promoters are against it. TMAC doesn't buy that reasoning for one second. "As a promoter, I think about things differently than most, and I welcome any t-shirt trailer that can tow in, because it adds to my event. I urge fans to let Dirt Motorsports know what they think of getting rid of the driver's t-shirt trailers. I haven't run across any promoters against the practice, and I talk to most of them."

The feelings amongst the drivers center on DIRT wanting a piece of their pie. "The WoO wants us to put our stuff in their trailer, so they can get a percentage," says TMAC. "They wanted us to settle on 15 dates for 2008 to bring our t-shirt trailers…and you can see what they're aiming for in the future. The year after next, it will be zero. We're going to lose a lot of product cramming into one trailer. You're also going to lose a lot of personalities with that. Our shows have become an event, and an important part of that event is all the t-shirt trailers. Some nights we'll have a race that's not all that great, but the event is always there. The trailers, the big haulers…it's like the circus coming to town in a way. There were 1000 people walking around our trailers in the rain in Canada after a rainout. I couldn't believe it! They want to take away a big chunk of the whole deal…and they just don't get the big picture! I wish they'd try to make money on their product instead of off of their product, which is us. It will definitely hurt them in the long run. It's not right what they're trying to do, and they need to pay attention to their own business, not ours. I think authorities from DIRT will listen to the fans perspective, so the fans should contact them about how they feel about the t-shirt trailers."

TMAC also feels rules surrounding the cockpit are not necessary. "Somehow they think eliminating cockpit adjustable devices are the way to go," he says. "There are no cost savings with this rule, whatsoever. I haven't spent $1,000 in my lifetime on these devices, and they aren't a part that breaks like tires and engines. It doesn't even make it in the top ten expenses for a sprint car owner. I've had the same cockpit equipment for three years. They may be trying to copy (ASCS President) Emmett Hahn as best they can, I don't know. I just don't see the need for it. Donny Schatz is the fastest guy in the world right now, and doesn't use them. Steve Kinser doesn't have anything adjustable either. Unfortunately, they sit there and feel they need to make rules just to make them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

The wing rule announced at the Knoxville Nationals for 2008 was put off as well. "Obviously, the new wing rule was shot down because it didn't make sense for anyone…racers, manufacturers or promoters," says TMAC. "No one that I knew of agreed with it. The promoters were brought in to look at some things for the future, but none thought they (DIRT) would make a rash decision on it. Consequently, the promoters around the country in Pennsylvania, at Knoxville, and everywhere else said, 'We can't do this.' To throw that rule out there without all these people on board shows how ridiculous it really was."

TMAC feels the World of Outlaws is putting out a better show than it ever has. "This series is not broke. Our product is awesome. The field is strong…we still have over 20 cars at this stage of the season and our crowds have been awesome. Do their (DIRT) late models have that situation? Maybe they should worry about other things like sponsors and a sensible schedule where we aren't zipping across the country four times in the last couple months. I realize we had to do that a little bit with the split last year…to get to some different tracks, but the split is over! I appreciate them talking to promoters and having meetings, but as racers, we have a lot vested in this too! When are they going to have an owners/drivers meeting? We're all waiting. I don't mind rules, I just don't like rules that don't make sense and cost us a lot of money."

Wins for Austin and Carson!

The McCarl boys were racing the Micro-Sprints on different days at English Creek Speedway south of Knoxville last weekend. Carson set fast time and won the feature on Saturday, while Austin set quick time, won his heat and the feature on Sunday's last point race. Austin was crowned the Micro-Sprint track champion in his first year of racing! Carson ended up fourth in points.

In"Terry"gation

Russell in Carthage, MO asks: How are the refunds for the Ultimate Challenge coming along?

TMAC Answers: The fans need to understand it's a long process. Including a Self-Addressed Stamped Envelope makes it a lot easier for us. We made a bit of a mistake in assuming people would know that at first. At least include a return address! The biggest check Lori has written was for eight tickets. Most are for one or two tickets, so with thousands of people there, you can imagine how long a process this is. People need to be patient. She does this alone. Imagine the time it takes to put a stamp on the envelope, return address, mailing address, write a check, balance the checkbook, etc. for each and every ticket. That's after you verify that the tickets are there. Some are sending photocopies of the ticket…that's not the ticket. Do you really think we're going to send you the money based on a photocopy? Some are sending the stub…that's not the raincheck. One guy from Minnesota…and you know who you are…sent a sticky note that said, 'Please send me my money. Thank you.'. There were no tickets. He didn't say how many tickets he had, but at least he did have a SASE! A bunch of people have been sending Monday tickets. Guess what? We raced on Monday!

Got a question for TMAC? Send it to us at [email protected], and we may answer it in this section! Put "? for TMAC" in your subject line.

Did you know?

TMAC set quick time the last time the WoO visited Princeton Speedway (July 29, 2006). He has finished in the top ten in three of his four visits there. He has also qualified in the top five three times.

Website

We will be adding Williams Grove photos from Jason McConnell later in the week.

Keep up to date with McCarl Motorsports at www.TerryMcCarl.com. We keep it fresh for TMAC fans!

Ultimate Challenge Tickets (Refund/Exchange)

Unfortunately, severe weather cancelled the 6th Annual Ultimate Challenge.

A refund or ticket exchange (for your same seats) for 2008 can be requested at:

McTwo Promotions
Box 185
Altoona, IA 50009

(Please include your raincheck and a SASE with your request)

"Tuesdays with TMAC"

To receive "Tuesdays with TMAC", send an e-mail to [email protected] with "TMAC" in the subject line.

TMAC Motorsports would like to thank sponsors Big Game Treestands, Bosma Poultry, Inc., AmeriCash Advance, and Ground Max Hunting Blinds.

Austin McCarl is the 2007 Micro-Sprint track champ at English Creek Speedway (Ryan Northcote)

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BigRightRear
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i agree...the new rumoured rules are proof of money grubbing and incompetence at best.


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i agree...the new rumoured rules are proof of money grubbing and incompetence at best.



stop this beating around the bush crap, tell us what you really think!


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The T-Shirt trail trailer deal is absurd in my opinion... what can they be thinking except trying to get a slice of the money that helps keep the teams on the road? Why would promoters object to the trailers? Take up a few parking spaces? -- not that many and not at a properly designed race facility. Many tracks have areas just for such vendors. The trailers and their colorful offerings add a midway type feel to an area of the track that enhances the perception that it is a special event. I agree that all concerned fans should let DIRT/WRG know how they feel about this ill-advised, myopic decision. They'll unduly create ire amongst the teams and fans alike with this one.... again "in my humble opinion".


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The T-Shirt trail trailer deal is absurd in my opinion... what can they be thinking except trying to get a slice of the money that helps keep the teams on the road? Why would promoters object to the trailers? Take up a few parking spaces? -- not that many and not at a properly designed race facility. Many tracks have areas just for such vendors. The trailers and their colorful offerings add a midway type feel to an area of the track that enhances the perception that it is a special event. I agree that all concerned fans should let DIRT/WRG know how they feel about this ill-advised, myopic decision. They'll unduly create ire amongst the teams and fans alike with this one.... again "in my humble opinion".



Agreed 100%.

If the promoters don't like it they can exclude them from that race, I know of some that don't allow them (Gold Cup, etc..) but for the reamining......

It's simply a way to try and get back some of the revenue that Ted use to have a strangle hold on that they don't get now.

 

 



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Good stuff T-Mac and Bill W...!!!


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Smitty51
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Dirt is pathetic, they're only trying to insure more $ into their own pockets! Leave this one alone Dirt, let the teams have their trailers!


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This is a copy of my email to DIRT
After reading of the tightening of shirt sales by the drivers, I just wanted to give you my humble opinion
I am long past buying shirts from the drivers, I have had them given to me by drivers for many years.
However, you may want to reconsider the decisions I heard about that DIRT wants to be the drivers vendor.
In "Show business" (such as you are in) you must sell the sizzle, not the steak.
A piece of dead cow is the same product as a 16 ounce hickory smoked, bacon wrapped fillet minion. Which would you rather buy?
As a fan first and foremost, the atmosphere of walking around the venue and "rubbing shoulders" with the teams and their souvenir salespersons is part of the program.
Walking up to the WoO trailer to buy something is no big deal, you are simply selling a generic piece of dead cow.
I know money and income is your main goal, but I feel that you will accomplish much greater rewards by having atmosphere and sizzle outside the doors to your venues.
Thank you
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This message was edited on October 02, 2007 at 12:17:25 PM by gdude

The feelings amongst the drivers center on DIRT wanting a piece of their pie. "The WoO wants us to put our stuff in their trailer, so they can get a percentage," says TMAC. "They wanted us to settle on 15 dates for 2008 to bring our t-shirt trailers…and you can see what they're aiming for in the future. The year after next, it will be zero. We're going to lose a lot of product cramming into one trailer. You're also going to lose a lot of personalities with that. Our shows have become an event, and an important part of that event is all the t-shirt trailers. Some nights we'll have a race that's not all that great, but the event is always there. The trailers, the big haulers…it's like the circus coming to town in a way. There were 1000 people walking around our trailers in the rain in Canada after a rainout. I couldn't believe it! They want to take away a big chunk of the whole deal…and they just don't get the big picture! I wish they'd try to make money on their product instead of off of their product, which is us. It will definitely hurt them in the long run. It's not right what they're trying to do, and they need to pay attention to their own business, not ours. I think authorities from DIRT will listen to the fans perspective, so the fans should contact them about how they feel about the t-shirt trailers."

Perhaps the drivers should band together and start another racing organization. Possibly tie the new organization in with NASCAR. Just a thought.


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i remember the BS that was directed toward Kinser when this was a sticking point during the creation of the NST.

these goofballs have proven to be very poor stewards of their OWN FINANCES. p!ssing away millions each year running to promote 20 drivers...and now turn on those very driver's revenue stream for even more money to p!ss away...

my guess would be this scenario : "hello track, now that we have all the drivers back together on the same tour, we are going to RAISE the sanction fee for 2008. what? you won't pay it? well...maybe we can squeeze the drivers out of their t-shirt money to make up the difference because we have all these operational shortfalls to cover."

support your local racers - if the shirt says Dirt - i won't buy it.

McCarl is right...and so was Kinser in 2006...it goes around/comes around.


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Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
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OK...questions.

Did Ted Johnson allow individual driver trailers during the time he had th series? Hasn't it just been the last few seasons when this has been allowed? Beginning with Hartslief/Kruger?

If this is true, why didn't Ted Johnson allow it all those years?

Drivers can still sell merchandise out of their individual haulers, can't they? And isn't that less expensive than to haul a trailer all around the country and the headaches that go with it?

I'll admit I don't know much about the economics of this issue so maybe someone can fill me in.



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Good Stuff Bill W and TMAC!

Amazing! Wasn’t that one of the reasons for the split in the first place?

Promoters…Most (NOT ALL) are just in it to fill their pockets they could give two shits how race teams get the money to come to their track and put on a show for the fans. I love the way they come out with a tire deal and I have yet to get anything but screwed on that deal. Seems like it is a different deal at each track you go to or each organization you run with. Why is that?

They could also give two shits how much the fans have to pay to get it or what they give them in return.

When, as a fan, was the last time you got anything back from a promoter?

As far as the Ultimate Challenge we are Lucky we are getting anything but a rain check back for next year. I am kind of partial to McTwo and the races they put on. I GOT MY ENTRY FEE AND ONE PIT PASS BACK WITHIN TEN DAYS. We sent in three more pit passes about 2 weeks later (after we rounded them up) and I am sure we will be getting them. If not I'll ask Terry to buy me a beer someday when I see him, if he says screw you I'll buy him one!

I for one wouldn't want to be in Lori's shoes on this deal. A thank less job at best, but thank you again for bringing wingless racing to IA in August!


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OK...questions.

Did Ted Johnson allow individual driver trailers during the time he had th series? Hasn't it just been the last few seasons when this has been allowed? Beginning with Hartslief/Kruger?

If this is true, why didn't Ted Johnson allow it all those years?

Drivers can still sell merchandise out of their individual haulers, can't they? And isn't that less expensive than to haul a trailer all around the country and the headaches that go with it?

I'll admit I don't know much about the economics of this issue so maybe someone can fill me in.



IMO John, it to me is much more about atmosphere than dollars.

DIRT has really stepped up to the place to promote a "show"

Why dilute the show for a few bucks.

It is obvious to me that Ted was not the sharpest knife in the drawer on a lot of things such as honesty and personal life (casinos)

I would have to consider Ted a bad example on how to do many things.

Nice guy maybe

good friend to many

honest businessman? lol lol lol


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GDude and BRR hit the nail on the head. This WAS one of the points that drove some of the drivers to leave, and I thought it had been settled but evidently not.

John, although they can and do sell merchandise from their haulers, not all of the fans go to the pits after the races are over. Many have small children and just want to get them home to their beds. If the t-shirt trailers aren't there for them to visit before/during the races then they just won't buy anything.

As was mentioned, it gives the feeling of an event rather than just another race. I also am far past buying t-shirts & other souveniers, but I do like going and talking to people in the trailers. They're part of my racing friends just like the drivers & crew, and not getting a chance to stop and say hello ruins the race for me.

All I can say is it's a very sad situation.

 


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Man this is exactly what NHRA did back in the 90's.  They made the drivers quit selling shirts and other souveniers out of their trailers.  NHRA then said if you want to sell shirts we will have a souvenier trailer at all events that fans can buy from.  If I'm not mistaken I believe NHRA got like $3.00 or $4.00 a shirt just to sell.

Finally the PRO (Professional Racers Organization) said enough was enough and got NHRA to give them back the right to sell their shirts.

A few racers found their way around it by selling shirts off of a tracks property that they were racing at.




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WoO can only DREAM about having "shows" that are on the level of NHRA.

this is just another example of backward thinking by DIRT...it took less than a YEAR to go right back to the dirty tricks.

 


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Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
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Whats the addy Duane?

 



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Whats the addy Duane?

 




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or just click here:

http://www.worldofoutlaws.com/sprint/ContactUs.aspx

send them your thougths. I did. I don't understand why the promoters don't want the "carnival" atmosphere a bunch of trailers brings. No trailers=less hype=I can go to my local sprint car races for less money and see just as good racing (although not as fast, but who cares when it is a good show). If it isn't an event, then it is just a race, and we might as well watch it on TV because we will see better, be warmer, pay less, and drink beer that costs less. Then I will take the money I just saved and send it to a deserving race team (probably my own).



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i remember the BS that was directed toward Kinser when this was a sticking point during the creation of the NST.

these goofballs have proven to be very poor stewards of their OWN FINANCES. p!ssing away millions each year running to promote 20 drivers...and now turn on those very driver's revenue stream for even more money to p!ss away...

my guess would be this scenario : "hello track, now that we have all the drivers back together on the same tour, we are going to RAISE the sanction fee for 2008. what? you won't pay it? well...maybe we can squeeze the drivers out of their t-shirt money to make up the difference because we have all these operational shortfalls to cover."

support your local racers - if the shirt says Dirt - i won't buy it.

McCarl is right...and so was Kinser in 2006...it goes around/comes around.



After the f - ing Kinser gave to the Lamberti/Parsons/Stockbridge group, his own partners, I can't believe that the piece of shit has the audacity to show his face in public, let alone pimp his t-shirts or whine about potential lost revenue.

I'd love to start a new "tour" for a single driver, and run just one event....a quarter mile dash off the end of the pier about 15 minutes north of Ocean Speedway in Watsonville.

Steve-O, I'll cover expenses from Watsonville to Santa Cruz, waive the tech inspection, let you sell as many t-shirts as you want (keep ALL the revenue)...all you have to do is show up and drive...about 1,340'.


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