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minthess
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November 22, 2016 at 10:28:01 AM
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Whose building the bullets for the 15 next year?


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


scottb15
November 22, 2016 at 10:38:01 AM
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id imagine shaver as always.



madsen
November 22, 2016 at 12:19:11 PM
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Shaver, take it to the bank.  Same "bullets" as last year unless World Racing Group makes a quick stupid decision to stick a supped up LS7 with a paltry but claimed 650 HP.  World Racing Group would like to do that with the late model series and the sprint car series, same engine for both series, all kinds of protection to discourage builders to cheat, etc.  Don't see how it would be possibly next year but would guess after reading an article in Flat Out (or was it Sprint Car and Midget) that this is the route they would like to go to keep the sport alive and healthy.  $14,000 for an LS7.  They say the 500hp engine is fully capable of delivering in excess of 650hp on alcohol with minimum internal changes.  Not direct wording my son has my mag, but they stated the engine would have a "long life", (my quotes) in a racing environment.  What's a long life.  I don't see this happening, zero chance.  650 HP?  No.  I remember when GM was considering a twin turbo LS7 for the ZR1 Vette.  After an hour of blasting around their proving grounds, the thing caught fire and burned to the ground. 


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Stroker_Race
November 22, 2016 at 12:27:06 PM
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Posted By: minthess on November 22 2016 at 10:28:01 AM

Whose building the bullets for the 15 next year?



Just curious, but why do you ask?  I am assuming you have some sort of alterior motive for the question.



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Posted By: Stroker_Race on November 22 2016 at 12:27:06 PM

Just curious, but why do you ask?  I am assuming you have some sort of alterior motive for the question.



Ford angle coming in 3, 2, 1...



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Posted By: madsen on November 22 2016 at 12:19:11 PM

Shaver, take it to the bank.  Same "bullets" as last year unless World Racing Group makes a quick stupid decision to stick a supped up LS7 with a paltry but claimed 650 HP.  World Racing Group would like to do that with the late model series and the sprint car series, same engine for both series, all kinds of protection to discourage builders to cheat, etc.  Don't see how it would be possibly next year but would guess after reading an article in Flat Out (or was it Sprint Car and Midget) that this is the route they would like to go to keep the sport alive and healthy.  $14,000 for an LS7.  They say the 500hp engine is fully capable of delivering in excess of 650hp on alcohol with minimum internal changes.  Not direct wording my son has my mag, but they stated the engine would have a "long life", (my quotes) in a racing environment.  What's a long life.  I don't see this happening, zero chance.  650 HP?  No.  I remember when GM was considering a twin turbo LS7 for the ZR1 Vette.  After an hour of blasting around their proving grounds, the thing caught fire and burned to the ground. 



Anyone know about the cylinder heads they use? Schott or Schutt something like that? Just looking at the engine at Knoxville I noticed they were a little bit different. 




minthess
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November 22, 2016 at 05:07:33 PM
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Correction.  Very tiny


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

linbob
November 22, 2016 at 05:50:27 PM
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Posted By: madsen on November 22 2016 at 12:19:11 PM

Shaver, take it to the bank.  Same "bullets" as last year unless World Racing Group makes a quick stupid decision to stick a supped up LS7 with a paltry but claimed 650 HP.  World Racing Group would like to do that with the late model series and the sprint car series, same engine for both series, all kinds of protection to discourage builders to cheat, etc.  Don't see how it would be possibly next year but would guess after reading an article in Flat Out (or was it Sprint Car and Midget) that this is the route they would like to go to keep the sport alive and healthy.  $14,000 for an LS7.  They say the 500hp engine is fully capable of delivering in excess of 650hp on alcohol with minimum internal changes.  Not direct wording my son has my mag, but they stated the engine would have a "long life", (my quotes) in a racing environment.  What's a long life.  I don't see this happening, zero chance.  650 HP?  No.  I remember when GM was considering a twin turbo LS7 for the ZR1 Vette.  After an hour of blasting around their proving grounds, the thing caught fire and burned to the ground. 



This will never happen.  Teams have all kinds of engines that would become obsolete.  What WOO does the local tracks would have to do and the one engine teams  could not afford to ash can a $50,000 engine then buy a LS engine.  They should do something to extend the life of present engines.  Lower the compression ratios and reduce intake stack size as a start.  Do not hold your breath on this.

 



revjimk
November 22, 2016 at 06:06:42 PM
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Posted By: madsen on November 22 2016 at 12:19:11 PM

Shaver, take it to the bank.  Same "bullets" as last year unless World Racing Group makes a quick stupid decision to stick a supped up LS7 with a paltry but claimed 650 HP.  World Racing Group would like to do that with the late model series and the sprint car series, same engine for both series, all kinds of protection to discourage builders to cheat, etc.  Don't see how it would be possibly next year but would guess after reading an article in Flat Out (or was it Sprint Car and Midget) that this is the route they would like to go to keep the sport alive and healthy.  $14,000 for an LS7.  They say the 500hp engine is fully capable of delivering in excess of 650hp on alcohol with minimum internal changes.  Not direct wording my son has my mag, but they stated the engine would have a "long life", (my quotes) in a racing environment.  What's a long life.  I don't see this happening, zero chance.  650 HP?  No.  I remember when GM was considering a twin turbo LS7 for the ZR1 Vette.  After an hour of blasting around their proving grounds, the thing caught fire and burned to the ground. 



What makes you think WRG wants to do this? Article was written by some guy named "Vahok Hill". Is he affiliated with WRG?

Never hoid of him myself...




minthess
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November 22, 2016 at 06:21:10 PM
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Posted By: Stroker_Race on November 22 2016 at 12:27:06 PM

Just curious, but why do you ask?  I am assuming you have some sort of alterior motive for the question.



Nope.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Hawker
November 22, 2016 at 07:45:10 PM
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6 Years ago....

Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHbOiKffro

Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHYKfzvObnI


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saphead
November 23, 2016 at 07:23:32 AM
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Posted By: minthess on November 22 2016 at 10:28:01 AM

Whose building the bullets for the 15 next year?



Really, bullets who really cares!!



Stroker_Race
November 23, 2016 at 10:48:52 AM
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Posted By: minthess on November 22 2016 at 06:21:10 PM

Nope.



Then why ask?  I noticed you didn't ask who was building Gravel's, Stewart, KKR's motors?  Why just single out the 15?



minthess
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November 23, 2016 at 10:53:13 AM
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Nice.  Thanks.  If it just had smaller injector stacks and grey wheels, it would be perfectSmile


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


minthess
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November 23, 2016 at 10:55:36 AM
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Posted By: Stroker_Race on November 23 2016 at 10:48:52 AM

Then why ask?  I noticed you didn't ask who was building Gravel's, Stewart, KKR's motors?  Why just single out the 15?



I prefer the winner instead of the losers.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

Wesmar
November 23, 2016 at 01:47:12 PM
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Posted By: Keyboard Jockey on November 22 2016 at 01:05:40 PM

Anyone know about the cylinder heads they use? Schott or Schutt something like that? Just looking at the engine at Knoxville I noticed they were a little bit different. 



 Schaudt.  Been using them for about 3 years now



Hellofit
November 23, 2016 at 07:18:25 PM
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Donny Shatz, the most interesting man in the world, doesn't often build his own motors.  But when he does, he drinks Dos Equis.




fiXXXer
November 23, 2016 at 07:29:11 PM
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Posted By: Stroker_Race on November 23 2016 at 10:48:52 AM

Then why ask?  I noticed you didn't ask who was building Gravel's, Stewart, KKR's motors?  Why just single out the 15?



He's hoping that since Tony's taxicab teams are switching to Ford that his sprint car teams will as well. The usual.....



minthess
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November 23, 2016 at 08:29:36 PM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on November 23 2016 at 07:29:11 PM

He's hoping that since Tony's taxicab teams are switching to Ford that his sprint car teams will as well. The usual.....



Would love to see a Ford under the 15 hood but thats not why i asked the question.  Happy Thanksgiving. 


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?



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