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When it was announced that Chuck was purchasing Badlands last year I was happy for the people of SD. They have an awesome bullring and when prepped properly always led to outstanding racing. It was great to hear that he was putting a ton of money into the facility. When it was announced they would move their program to Saturday, it didn't bother me. (I'm a regular Knoxville attendee) I understood that as a businessman, you gotta do what is right for your business to profit.
People say "he's finally giving the racers what they deserve." "He's the best thing to happen to sprint car racing." Throwing a random $10k or more to the purse on random nights is great, free entry weekend for all fans is great. But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year? I'm sure he's sponsored some nights at Huset's in years past but what's changed? These racers know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to either race as a hobby or for a living. Sure, Knoxville has been paying $3,000 to win since 2001, but did you know they still had the best weekly 410 purse in the country?
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18." Read that and tell me he has the best intentions of the sport in mind.
Before you start bashing me, I'm from northern Iowa, I've attended 2 nights at Badlands and 5 nights at Knoxville this season.
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Posted By: Rubberdown54 on June 29 2016 at 07:15:23 PM
When it was announced that Chuck was purchasing Badlands last year I was happy for the people of SD. They have an awesome bullring and when prepped properly always led to outstanding racing. It was great to hear that he was putting a ton of money into the facility. When it was announced they would move their program to Saturday, it didn't bother me. (I'm a regular Knoxville attendee) I understood that as a businessman, you gotta do what is right for your business to profit.
People say "he's finally giving the racers what they deserve." "He's the best thing to happen to sprint car racing." Throwing a random $10k or more to the purse on random nights is great, free entry weekend for all fans is great. But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year? I'm sure he's sponsored some nights at Huset's in years past but what's changed? These racers know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to either race as a hobby or for a living. Sure, Knoxville has been paying $3,000 to win since 2001, but did you know they still had the best weekly 410 purse in the country?
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18." Read that and tell me he has the best intentions of the sport in mind.
Before you start bashing me, I'm from northern Iowa, I've attended 2 nights at Badlands and 5 nights at Knoxville this season.
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Your right hopefully he stops spending money on dirt track racing. Hopefully no one new comes along and puts money into sprint cars in the future. New sponsors only hurts the sponsors that have been around for a long time shouldn't be allowed.
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Posted By: Rubberdown54 on June 29 2016 at 07:15:23 PM
When it was announced that Chuck was purchasing Badlands last year I was happy for the people of SD. They have an awesome bullring and when prepped properly always led to outstanding racing. It was great to hear that he was putting a ton of money into the facility. When it was announced they would move their program to Saturday, it didn't bother me. (I'm a regular Knoxville attendee) I understood that as a businessman, you gotta do what is right for your business to profit.
People say "he's finally giving the racers what they deserve." "He's the best thing to happen to sprint car racing." Throwing a random $10k or more to the purse on random nights is great, free entry weekend for all fans is great. But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year? I'm sure he's sponsored some nights at Huset's in years past but what's changed? These racers know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to either race as a hobby or for a living. Sure, Knoxville has been paying $3,000 to win since 2001, but did you know they still had the best weekly 410 purse in the country?
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18." Read that and tell me he has the best intentions of the sport in mind.
Before you start bashing me, I'm from northern Iowa, I've attended 2 nights at Badlands and 5 nights at Knoxville this season.
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In short all I think the folks at Hussets are doing is making a name for themselves. Any attention is good attention because we are talking about them. Attention has people attending and if they can get them hooked on the racing bug then all good.
Lets be real here. These two tracks are 320 MILES apart from one another. There is no real competition as far as pulling fans from each others region nor is there any real competition in pulling teams from each other because they are 320 miles apart.
Having strong tracks and strong payouts is what manufactures new racers. Racers race because they love to race, but they also have to be able to pay for it. With two options out there a low buck racer and go wherever his program is best suited and make what money he can. If there is only 1 track for 320 miles I'm sure many of those low buck racers never make the jump to 410s because they just don't see how they can do it.
Case in point, while in Pa things have been alittle down somehow we have 3 tracks within 120 miles from each other and they pull full fields most of the time. I'm sure Ohio is in a similar situation as Pa.
So I think folks are making it a bigger deal than it really is.
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Posted By: Rubberdown54 on June 29 2016 at 07:15:23 PM
When it was announced that Chuck was purchasing Badlands last year I was happy for the people of SD. They have an awesome bullring and when prepped properly always led to outstanding racing. It was great to hear that he was putting a ton of money into the facility. When it was announced they would move their program to Saturday, it didn't bother me. (I'm a regular Knoxville attendee) I understood that as a businessman, you gotta do what is right for your business to profit.
People say "he's finally giving the racers what they deserve." "He's the best thing to happen to sprint car racing." Throwing a random $10k or more to the purse on random nights is great, free entry weekend for all fans is great. But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year? I'm sure he's sponsored some nights at Huset's in years past but what's changed? These racers know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to either race as a hobby or for a living. Sure, Knoxville has been paying $3,000 to win since 2001, but did you know they still had the best weekly 410 purse in the country?
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18." Read that and tell me he has the best intentions of the sport in mind.
Before you start bashing me, I'm from northern Iowa, I've attended 2 nights at Badlands and 5 nights at Knoxville this season.
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Are you implying Chuck could be the Trump of sprint car racing? I say that not at all sarcastic either.
Purely doing it for the best interest in all is hard to believe. Maybe he is just a guy who wants to prove whatever he wants to do he can do it and be the best?
Some people will cry conspiracy but might no be to far fetched. Also, if that is his reason it still doesnt mean he's bad for the sport.
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Posted By: Gonesprintin' on June 29 2016 at 09:08:01 PM
Are you implying Chuck could be the Trump of sprint car racing? I say that not at all sarcastic either.
Purely doing it for the best interest in all is hard to believe. Maybe he is just a guy who wants to prove whatever he wants to do he can do it and be the best?
Some people will cry conspiracy but might no be to far fetched. Also, if that is his reason it still doesnt mean he's bad for the sport.
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I'm sure right now the fan around badlands feel it's there time in the sun. Its never wrong for the racer to get more,They are the guys putting it out there each night, But it's also important to spend money right, Buying drivers.fact! Is wrong But it was right off day 1 chuck came after Knoxville like they did something to him? He's new to racing around here, But I understand the need to be the cock of the walk also, But I really hope the drivers think if 4 or 5 years from today gene and Paul say goodbye cause there not making money,cause they are not life long in your heart fans like us! Will there be a track strong left to pick up the racers and fans and put things back pre-chuck? if I was a racer up there I'd like my money to,maybe I'm not mccarl but they can't race with 4 ? So I'll take $500 to help my program. I just hope the fans know the guys that are racing both places to make money and help the sport Not just rapping badlands and hurting Knoxville,because after the money's gone ain't knowone giving it back? And both side is screwed!!
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Posted By: Gonesprintin' on June 29 2016 at 09:08:01 PM
Are you implying Chuck could be the Trump of sprint car racing? I say that not at all sarcastic either.
Purely doing it for the best interest in all is hard to believe. Maybe he is just a guy who wants to prove whatever he wants to do he can do it and be the best?
Some people will cry conspiracy but might no be to far fetched. Also, if that is his reason it still doesnt mean he's bad for the sport.
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And is chuck the trump of sprint cars seems to be right , knows dam little about the way the sport works? But thinks he can buy your car or vote, you can see the way that's worked out, Trumps own party don't want him, and his target group is high school or less education end, maybe people need to think about both?
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Posted By: kossuth on June 29 2016 at 09:06:27 PM
In short all I think the folks at Hussets are doing is making a name for themselves. Any attention is good attention because we are talking about them. Attention has people attending and if they can get them hooked on the racing bug then all good.
Lets be real here. These two tracks are 320 MILES apart from one another. There is no real competition as far as pulling fans from each others region nor is there any real competition in pulling teams from each other because they are 320 miles apart.
Having strong tracks and strong payouts is what manufactures new racers. Racers race because they love to race, but they also have to be able to pay for it. With two options out there a low buck racer and go wherever his program is best suited and make what money he can. If there is only 1 track for 320 miles I'm sure many of those low buck racers never make the jump to 410s because they just don't see how they can do it.
Case in point, while in Pa things have been alittle down somehow we have 3 tracks within 120 miles from each other and they pull full fields most of the time. I'm sure Ohio is in a similar situation as Pa.
So I think folks are making it a bigger deal than it really is.
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There are very few 410 drivers paying for things,Racers don't make money sponsors pay so they can play,This is at all levels, so please he's right for kiss and the music scene, good for the payday loan dpeals,, Charging 21 percent interest to old people on ssi or young kids that need money, but is this the kind a guy to trust with the sport of sprint cars in the Midwest, I'm telling you he didn't get rich by not stepping on the little guy, After things go bad for the bulk of most tracks, Bet prices go up and purses come down,And if you don't like it go some place else, oh! There is no place else.But racers need to race for as much as they can get for sure.
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Posted By: Rubberdown54 on June 29 2016 at 07:15:23 PM
When it was announced that Chuck was purchasing Badlands last year I was happy for the people of SD. They have an awesome bullring and when prepped properly always led to outstanding racing. It was great to hear that he was putting a ton of money into the facility. When it was announced they would move their program to Saturday, it didn't bother me. (I'm a regular Knoxville attendee) I understood that as a businessman, you gotta do what is right for your business to profit.
People say "he's finally giving the racers what they deserve." "He's the best thing to happen to sprint car racing." Throwing a random $10k or more to the purse on random nights is great, free entry weekend for all fans is great. But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year? I'm sure he's sponsored some nights at Huset's in years past but what's changed? These racers know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to either race as a hobby or for a living. Sure, Knoxville has been paying $3,000 to win since 2001, but did you know they still had the best weekly 410 purse in the country?
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18." Read that and tell me he has the best intentions of the sport in mind.
Before you start bashing me, I'm from northern Iowa, I've attended 2 nights at Badlands and 5 nights at Knoxville this season.
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this guy chuck,If he's so rich and feels the need to kill Knoxville,Here have him bring a bus down on sat morning all painted up badlands , since he likes to pay people off? Pay aj at dingus,get a ticket all the beer you can drink, a badlands shirt and a motel for $150 bucks and start bus'm up there, come on that's big time lets do this right!
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Posted By: sprintfast on June 29 2016 at 08:05:07 PM
Your right hopefully he stops spending money on dirt track racing. Hopefully no one new comes along and puts money into sprint cars in the future. New sponsors only hurts the sponsors that have been around for a long time shouldn't be allowed.
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You really are too damn stupid to add anything of content, aren't you?
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Posted By: Rubberdown54 on June 29 2016 at 07:15:23 PM
When it was announced that Chuck was purchasing Badlands last year I was happy for the people of SD. They have an awesome bullring and when prepped properly always led to outstanding racing. It was great to hear that he was putting a ton of money into the facility. When it was announced they would move their program to Saturday, it didn't bother me. (I'm a regular Knoxville attendee) I understood that as a businessman, you gotta do what is right for your business to profit.
People say "he's finally giving the racers what they deserve." "He's the best thing to happen to sprint car racing." Throwing a random $10k or more to the purse on random nights is great, free entry weekend for all fans is great. But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year? I'm sure he's sponsored some nights at Huset's in years past but what's changed? These racers know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to either race as a hobby or for a living. Sure, Knoxville has been paying $3,000 to win since 2001, but did you know they still had the best weekly 410 purse in the country?
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18." Read that and tell me he has the best intentions of the sport in mind.
Before you start bashing me, I'm from northern Iowa, I've attended 2 nights at Badlands and 5 nights at Knoxville this season.
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But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year?
Now we are going to pick on him because he didn't start putting money in the sport sooner? Really, maybe someone took him to a race one night last year and he thought wow this is cool maybe i will invest. Mybe he drove by and saw a for sale sign. Who knows. Does it matter? I do not know of any rules saying how many years you need to pony up before Buying a track and upping the purse.
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18."
That's maybe not something they should put up if they are still claiming not to be in competition
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For real I think it's a smart thing to do , he's got money and Knoxville isn't working to fix it or fight it? Bus'm up there to see the best Drivers? maybe kiss will be playing a nursing home tour? But he can spend all that money now and get it over with. Casinos do all day long ! Give badlands bucks?
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Looser really think it's a good idea you got something better !!
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Food for thought:
Loser = someone who doesn't win.
Looser = someone with loose bowels.
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Posted By: sprintfast on June 29 2016 at 08:05:07 PM
Your right hopefully he stops spending money on dirt track racing. Hopefully no one new comes along and puts money into sprint cars in the future. New sponsors only hurts the sponsors that have been around for a long time shouldn't be allowed.
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Why does there always have to be a "devil" in sprint car racing to some of you guys?
First it was Guy Webb, then Tyler Walker, now Chuck Brennan.
So what if he takes a little dig at Knoxville? - he's a promoter, and that's what he was doing. I thought it was kinda funny.
Oh, and TRUMP2016!
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Have we ever thought of this scenario? This in in reference to Chuck's comments about Knoxville last year.
(Chuck) I'm going to buy the track and run on Saturday night because that's how I think my business will make the most money and I can make this work.
(20th Person) Hey Chuck, you can't run on Saturday because that's when Knoxville races!
I have no idea how it happened but could that be a plausible scenario?
Chuck knows that Knoxville is in Iowa and he has been sponsoring races for more than one year.
For us to say we know what's good for the sport long term.... we don't know what his plans are so why are we speculating and complaining? It's his money to do with what he wants.
In reference to putting up the sprinter totals for both tracks..... Maybe that's a dig at all the people pissing and moaning on this message board.
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Posted By: Rubberdown54 on June 29 2016 at 07:15:23 PM
When it was announced that Chuck was purchasing Badlands last year I was happy for the people of SD. They have an awesome bullring and when prepped properly always led to outstanding racing. It was great to hear that he was putting a ton of money into the facility. When it was announced they would move their program to Saturday, it didn't bother me. (I'm a regular Knoxville attendee) I understood that as a businessman, you gotta do what is right for your business to profit.
People say "he's finally giving the racers what they deserve." "He's the best thing to happen to sprint car racing." Throwing a random $10k or more to the purse on random nights is great, free entry weekend for all fans is great. But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year? I'm sure he's sponsored some nights at Huset's in years past but what's changed? These racers know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to either race as a hobby or for a living. Sure, Knoxville has been paying $3,000 to win since 2001, but did you know they still had the best weekly 410 purse in the country?
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18." Read that and tell me he has the best intentions of the sport in mind.
Before you start bashing me, I'm from northern Iowa, I've attended 2 nights at Badlands and 5 nights at Knoxville this season.
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First, Chuck doesn't run the scoreboard but glad you noticed. Others are saying that Chuck is trying to kill Knoxville; not sure how though. Why do fans want to keep this comparison going? Badlands fans are Badlands fans. Knoxville fans are Knoxville fans. Very little crossover on a weekly basis. I am biased though. Been to Husets/Badlands nearly 400 times, been to Knoxville twice.
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Still standing by for the train wreck that IS going to come.... The guy is a a thief. Pay day loans and pawn shops are just as bad as lawyers and fine print. Anyone that prays off of the uneducated easy marks is an ass in my book. Sure he can throw around the money he stole for a bit but it is gonna stop eventually.
I tell it like I see it.
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There are very few 410 drivers paying for things,Racers don't make money sponsors pay so they can play,This is at all levels, so please he's right for kiss and the music scene, good for the payday loan dpeals,, Charging 21 percent interest to old people on ssi or young kids that need money, but is this the kind a guy to trust with the sport of sprint cars in the Midwest, I'm telling you he didn't get rich by not stepping on the little guy, After things go bad for the bulk of most tracks, Bet prices go up and purses come down,And if you don't like it go some place else, oh! There is no place else.But racers need to race for as much as they can get for sure.
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There are very few 410 drivers paying for things,Racers don't make money sponsors pay so they can play
Seriously?
Charging 21 percent interest to old people on ssi or young kids that need money
Do you really need a buck that bad? If anyone answers YES to this question then high interest short term loans are right up your alley.
you are almost as bad as Mindless and his ford 410's
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When it was announced that Chuck was purchasing Badlands last year I was happy for the people of SD. They have an awesome bullring and when prepped properly always led to outstanding racing. It was great to hear that he was putting a ton of money into the facility. When it was announced they would move their program to Saturday, it didn't bother me. (I'm a regular Knoxville attendee) I understood that as a businessman, you gotta do what is right for your business to profit.
People say "he's finally giving the racers what they deserve." "He's the best thing to happen to sprint car racing." Throwing a random $10k or more to the purse on random nights is great, free entry weekend for all fans is great. But If he has so much respect for the racers then WHY haven't we heard of him helping out the racers until just last year? I'm sure he's sponsored some nights at Huset's in years past but what's changed? These racers know what they are getting themselves into when they decide to either race as a hobby or for a living. Sure, Knoxville has been paying $3,000 to win since 2001, but did you know they still had the best weekly 410 purse in the country?
Last Saturday, Badlands had posted on their scoreboard "Badlands Outlaw 410 Sprints :37 Knoxville/NSL 18." Read that and tell me he has the best intentions of the sport in mind.
Before you start bashing me, I'm from northern Iowa, I've attended 2 nights at Badlands and 5 nights at Knoxville this season.
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I just hope that any changes or improvements Knoxville makes going forward is soley because they are needed to improve Knoxville and not to combat anything Chuck is doing. That would be a losing battle trying to out-duel an egocentric millionare who does not care about racing in the area collectively. I hope that the NSL, Knoxville and other tracks in the Midwest can continue to grow and give us good options for great racing around here for both the drivers and the fans.
Knoxville has had a great thing going for decades and has always set the standard from track prep, to safety concerns to a well run timely program. I have no doubt they will continue to do so in the future and think a little competition and discussion/awareness like this will help nudge them to continue to do so.
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Posted By: Gridiron Racer on June 30 2016 at 09:18:16 AM
I just hope that any changes or improvements Knoxville makes going forward is soley because they are needed to improve Knoxville and not to combat anything Chuck is doing. That would be a losing battle trying to out-duel an egocentric millionare who does not care about racing in the area collectively. I hope that the NSL, Knoxville and other tracks in the Midwest can continue to grow and give us good options for great racing around here for both the drivers and the fans.
Knoxville has had a great thing going for decades and has always set the standard from track prep, to safety concerns to a well run timely program. I have no doubt they will continue to do so in the future and think a little competition and discussion/awareness like this will help nudge them to continue to do so.
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Great comments! Long before this most recent turn of events I was an advocate of better purses. The purses were stagnant way too long. For that I give Brennan credit for waking up the sprint car community. My biggest concern is this.....just like in our entire society, the money always funnels to the top. Absolutely Brennan raised the purse at the top and at the bottom......but the gap did not narrow, it got wider. That does become a huge problem! That is what leads to the lower teams falling off and going away. The lower end sponsors and car owners know they will not make money from the race car itself, but they need the cost offset of a decent payday to help cover their expences. The big dollar teams.....if they choose not to lower their spending habits and continue to out spend evrybody else, it's because they have the disposable funds to do so.
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